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Recycled denim: a breakthrough?

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Re: Recycled denim: a breakthrough?

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Reduce - buy jeans that last a lifetime. Reuse - buy your jeans from a thrift store. Recycle - this? So it’s the last choice, but most clothes today just end up in the trash, since durability is fairly awful. Even after one wash some clothes start to lose their shape and color. What will the durability of recycled clothes look like if the recycling inputs are so poor? Will people pay any less for these clothes? I won…

I don't think it's realistic for you to expect your jeans to last a lifetime. I buy decent jeans once a year. The new pair is for daily wear. The old pair is retired for manual labor. The old-old pair is retired to when I crawl under the house.

Word for word how I describe my own clothing methodology to others. Rock on good fellow.

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I've completely stopped wearing cotton. Everything I wear is now polyester and elastane. Socks, underwear, trousers, boots, t-shirts, mid-layers, jackets, hats - all of it. I know this has it's own issues with micro plastics but the clothes are way comfier, take up less space, are less prone to stains, are quicker to dry, hold heat when wet and are more durable to boot. Personally I think it's the way forward.

I prefer cotton because for some reason polyester makes me sweat a lot

Re: Recycled denim: a breakthrough?

#23

Reduce - buy jeans that last a lifetime. Reuse - buy your jeans from a thrift store. Recycle - this? So it’s the last choice, but most clothes today just end up in the trash, since durability is fairly awful. Even after one wash some clothes start to lose their shape and color. What will the durability of recycled clothes look like if the recycling inputs are so poor? Will people pay any less for these clothes? I won…

I don't think it's realistic for you to expect your jeans to last a lifetime. I buy decent jeans once a year. The new pair is for daily wear. The old pair is retired for manual labor. The old-old pair is retired to when I crawl under the house.

I usually have 3 decent (not super cheap, but nothing expensive, 40-80€) pairs at a time, they usually last around 10 years, with taking them to get fixed once or twice.

Re: Recycled denim: a breakthrough?

#24

Reduce - buy jeans that last a lifetime. Reuse - buy your jeans from a thrift store. Recycle - this? So it’s the last choice, but most clothes today just end up in the trash, since durability is fairly awful. Even after one wash some clothes start to lose their shape and color. What will the durability of recycled clothes look like if the recycling inputs are so poor? Will people pay any less for these clothes? I won…

I don't think it's realistic for you to expect your jeans to last a lifetime. I buy decent jeans once a year. The new pair is for daily wear. The old pair is retired for manual labor. The old-old pair is retired to when I crawl under the house.

> I don't think it's realistic for you to expect your jeans to last a lifetime.

> I buy decent jeans once a year.

WHAT? I have jeans I got 10 years ago and are still good. And they weren't even expensive

Re: Recycled denim: a breakthrough?

#25
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One thing sustainability, fashion and denim: we could start by not artificially preusing it. Also: is it me or about 20 years ago a pair of jeans lasted way longer than they currently do? Maybe thinner materials were introduced for softness?

About ten years ago was the first time I owned a pair of jeans that I was cold in. Unfortunately they were Patagonia, which makes no goddamn sense. And yet here we are. Recently they flip flopped and Patagonia has the heaviest jeans I’ve ever seen. To rival Carhart. But they’re also a weird blend of cellulose derived fiber and recycled plastic. Not a fan of the plastic, recycled or no it’s going out my dryer vent.

> Not a fan of the plastic, recycled or no it’s going out my dryer vent.

Exactly. In the end, it ends up as micro-plastics in the water

Re: Recycled denim: a breakthrough?

#26
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does the free market and comfortable clothing options make you furious?

For me it's because good quality clothing has become prohibitively expensive. The market has polarized into cheap low quality clothing and ultra expensive high end clothing.

> Stretchy jeans for men make me furious.

If it's about being quality, why only for men though?

Re: Recycled denim: a breakthrough?

#27

Reduce - buy jeans that last a lifetime. Reuse - buy your jeans from a thrift store. Recycle - this? So it’s the last choice, but most clothes today just end up in the trash, since durability is fairly awful. Even after one wash some clothes start to lose their shape and color. What will the durability of recycled clothes look like if the recycling inputs are so poor? Will people pay any less for these clothes? I won…

I don't think it's realistic for you to expect your jeans to last a lifetime. I buy decent jeans once a year. The new pair is for daily wear. The old pair is retired for manual labor. The old-old pair is retired to when I crawl under the house.

This worked for me right up till I had kids. Now, with daily spillage, I'm washing the darned things to death.

Re: Recycled denim: a breakthrough?

#28

If you ever wondered about the claim that denim is self cleaning, it refers to the use of methylene blue being used as a dye, "dye" being synonymous with the word "drug" in the 1800's as it was also the first man made drug in the world. Whilst it has a variety of properties, when exposed to near infrared light (red light) because it penetrates the tissue more deeply, MB's activity greatly increases its anti bacterial…

[citation needed] Denim is usually dyed with natural or synthetic indigo. The quip about the navy refers to Methylene Blue's pharmacological use as an antimalarial drug. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/49831954_Lest_we_fo...

Re: Recycled denim: a breakthrough?

#29
post #12

I've completely stopped wearing cotton. Everything I wear is now polyester and elastane. Socks, underwear, trousers, boots, t-shirts, mid-layers, jackets, hats - all of it. I know this has it's own issues with micro plastics but the clothes are way comfier, take up less space, are less prone to stains, are quicker to dry, hold heat when wet and are more durable to boot. Personally I think it's the way forward.

Interesting, I've done almost the exact opposite. The only article that I still buy synthetics for is underwear because the synthetic blends for those are very well tuned, but for things like shirts polyester tends to irritate my skin more easily, accumulates static electricity (and thus track cat fuzz) like crazy, gets uncomfortable when it's warm out, and pills badly after a few washes. For all that cotton works wa…

Everything I wear is made by either Under Armour (trousers, socks, shorts, underwear, tops, hats), GoRuck (boots, jackets, polos), Patagonia (mid-layers/jackets) or Carhartt (hat) so I think that’s probably a big component of why I haven’t had any breathability or durability issues. I live in UK so weather isn’t too extreme here. I tend be fairly sensitive to cold but handle hot weather easily.

Re: Recycled denim: a breakthrough?

#30

Reduce - buy jeans that last a lifetime. Reuse - buy your jeans from a thrift store. Recycle - this? So it’s the last choice, but most clothes today just end up in the trash, since durability is fairly awful. Even after one wash some clothes start to lose their shape and color. What will the durability of recycled clothes look like if the recycling inputs are so poor? Will people pay any less for these clothes? I won…

I don't think it's realistic for you to expect your jeans to last a lifetime. I buy decent jeans once a year. The new pair is for daily wear. The old pair is retired for manual labor. The old-old pair is retired to when I crawl under the house.

I have a pair of jeans I still wear around the house that are more than twenty years old. The newer ones don't seem as durable.
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