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Recycled denim: a breakthrough?

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Re: Recycled denim: a breakthrough?

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The material: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyocell is a variant of rayon.

Thanks - the article doesn't make clear how they are recycling denim. They say that their product can be recycled in the same way as the original denim, but they don't say that's because they've reduced it to rayon.

They're making out that they're making new denim from old denim. In that respect, it's deceptive.

Re: Recycled denim: a breakthrough?

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I've completely stopped wearing cotton. Everything I wear is now polyester and elastane. Socks, underwear, trousers, boots, t-shirts, mid-layers, jackets, hats - all of it. I know this has it's own issues with micro plastics but the clothes are way comfier, take up less space, are less prone to stains, are quicker to dry, hold heat when wet and are more durable to boot. Personally I think it's the way forward.

Re: Recycled denim: a breakthrough?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Current denim fabrics typically contain some 5% elastane, which gives a bit of strechiness, but doesn't last that long.

Stretchy jeans make me angry. Stretchy jeans for men make me furious.

Why does the free market and comfortable clothing options make you furious?

Re: Recycled denim: a breakthrough?

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Reduce - buy jeans that last a lifetime. Reuse - buy your jeans from a thrift store. Recycle - this? So it’s the last choice, but most clothes today just end up in the trash, since durability is fairly awful. Even after one wash some clothes start to lose their shape and color. What will the durability of recycled clothes look like if the recycling inputs are so poor? Will people pay any less for these clothes? I won…

I don't think it's realistic for you to expect your jeans to last a lifetime.

I buy decent jeans once a year. The new pair is for daily wear. The old pair is retired for manual labor. The old-old pair is retired to when I crawl under the house.

Re: Recycled denim: a breakthrough?

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If you ever wondered about the claim that denim is self cleaning, it refers to the use of methylene blue being used as a dye, "dye" being synonymous with the word "drug" in the 1800's as it was also the first man made drug in the world.

Whilst it has a variety of properties, when exposed to near infrared light (red light) because it penetrates the tissue more deeply, MB's activity greatly increases its anti bacterial, anti viral, anti cytokine, anti-fungal, anti depressant (MAOI), and more activity. Its a rapid electro donor, some 30times faster than auto oxidation in the mitochondria, and unlike vit C, another electron donor, it increases the conversion of ferric iron (state3) into ferrous (state2) iron helping to improve physical performance which is why its an effective treatment for methemoglobinemia.

The main reason it fell out of medical fashion? The blue stain gets everywhere! Used extensively by the US Navy, it even helped coin its own saying "Even at the loo, we see, we pee, navy blue".

But this is how denim was self cleaning, leave the clothing out in the sun and the dye got to work on the bacteria you'd find in your clothes, and whilst copper rivets in jeans were used to hold the clothes together in a rugged fashion, the copper also helped play its part in being an antibacterial implement.

Whilst the medical profession are revisiting it, its cited as cancerous, but this was based on a lifelong study on F344 rats which are a 1920's breed of rat, that were inbred and predisposed to various cancers and thus became one of the cancer model rats. This appears to be a form of vested interest manipulation by some sectors of the scientific community in order to manipulate decision makers so much so its enough for Canada and the UK to ban it!

But that is how Denim self cleans.

Re: Recycled denim: a breakthrough?

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I've completely stopped wearing cotton. Everything I wear is now polyester and elastane. Socks, underwear, trousers, boots, t-shirts, mid-layers, jackets, hats - all of it. I know this has it's own issues with micro plastics but the clothes are way comfier, take up less space, are less prone to stains, are quicker to dry, hold heat when wet and are more durable to boot. Personally I think it's the way forward.

Interesting, I've done almost the exact opposite. The only article that I still buy synthetics for is underwear because the synthetic blends for those are very well tuned, but for things like shirts polyester tends to irritate my skin more easily, accumulates static electricity (and thus track cat fuzz) like crazy, gets uncomfortable when it's warm out, and pills badly after a few washes. For all that cotton works way better for me.

Maybe it comes down to differences in climate and body physiology.

Re: Recycled denim: a breakthrough?

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I've completely stopped wearing cotton. Everything I wear is now polyester and elastane. Socks, underwear, trousers, boots, t-shirts, mid-layers, jackets, hats - all of it. I know this has it's own issues with micro plastics but the clothes are way comfier, take up less space, are less prone to stains, are quicker to dry, hold heat when wet and are more durable to boot. Personally I think it's the way forward.

I agree to a point: polyester blends tend to hold their color better and smell better. They also tend to be constructed better as I've had too many issues with cotton shirts that get holes in them or get wrinkled too easily. I'm not sure if I agree on the comfort though, which is why I tend to go with a blend.

Re: Recycled denim: a breakthrough?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stretchy jeans make me angry. Stretchy jeans for men make me furious.

Why does the free market and comfortable clothing options make you furious?

For me it's because good quality clothing has become prohibitively expensive. The market has polarized into cheap low quality clothing and ultra expensive high end clothing.

Re: Recycled denim: a breakthrough?

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If you ever wondered about the claim that denim is self cleaning, it refers to the use of methylene blue being used as a dye, "dye" being synonymous with the word "drug" in the 1800's as it was also the first man made drug in the world. Whilst it has a variety of properties, when exposed to near infrared light (red light) because it penetrates the tissue more deeply, MB's activity greatly increases its anti bacterial…

Well this is pretty damn cool.

I always assumed "self cleaning" was a bit of myth and mystique amongst denim-heads, attributable to the density of weave and the "patina" denim can get that makes it effective at resisting stains, etc. "Nah dude, my jeans are MAGIC!"

You've earned your Friday … thank you!

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