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Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by junofan »

speedgoose wrote: post #298
matheusmoreira wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Politics. Stuff that's irrelevant to the development of Firefox. Which is the only thing Mozilla should be focusing on given how far behind they are.

Perhaps people don’t like to support people actively working against their rights. By using Firefox you support Mozilla, so you support the CEO financing political campaigns you don’t agree with. The CEO is a special role that represents Mozilla. It’s simple, the guy had to go.

Do I have to keep tabs on the CEO of every company I interact with? Come on, that’s ridiculous.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by wingworks »

GCA10 wrote: post #26

Just started testing Brave Search, and it scored a rare 100 on the first test: If you type in the name of a favorite boutique hotel, will you get that hotel's true website -- or the usual hairball of third-party intermediaries? (For anyone who's ever tried to modify a reservation, the difference is astonishing. If you're booked with the hotel, all kinds of adjustments are at least possible. If you're booked with Book…

Wow it is. The maps are fast to load too. (as is anything you do in brave search, where as google maps is so slow, and a pain to view search results on too)

I hope Brave releases a dedicated maps tab soon. (I realise it's just openstreetmaps, but it's a clean and easy to use version)

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Post by ww520 »

rjh29 wrote: post #249
crossroadsguy wrote: post #243

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Not true. But I won’t discuss that. Here’s something else — the most critical part of a booking — the booking itself. Go talk to third party aggregator chat bot when you realise you don’t even have a booking that you booked. 4-5 days later if you’re lucky you’ll receive an apology email if you’re lucky, which mentions that they do not want you have that experience and they’ve send it for feedback to the relevant team…

If your hotel double books you, they're out of rooms and can't help. If Booking.com double books you, they can pull strings to give you a different room in any hotel on their site (and they do). I don't doubt you had that experience personally, but it doesn't match my experience at all, and I spend 1/3 of my life in hotels.

If a hotel double booked you and you showed up, the hotel would walk you to a nearby similar hotel all paid for by the hotel. The “walk” process is a standard industry practice.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by speedgoose »

junofan wrote: post #301
speedgoose wrote: post #298

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps people don’t like to support people actively working against their rights. By using Firefox you support Mozilla, so you support the CEO financing political campaigns you don’t agree with. The CEO is a special role that represents Mozilla. It’s simple, the guy had to go.

Do I have to keep tabs on the CEO of every company I interact with? Come on, that’s ridiculous.

The company you work for perhaps. If you work for a company. Then it’s up to you. Most people don’t care but some do. You aren’t requested to check every CEO, no one said that.

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Post by sbaiddn »

elzbardico wrote: post #196
lisasays wrote: post #111

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You mean in not caving to conservative-friendly "free speech" preferences? Its decision to downrank state-sponsored disinformation? One can question the wisdom of these decisions - but ultimately it's a matter of editorial control, not censorship.

You know, if the conservatives ever come back to power, this precedent that we are creating on justifying censorship will bit us hard, and it will hurt as hell.

We wont.

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Post by ww520 »

rjh29 wrote: post #276
Benjamin_Dobell wrote: post #265

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Strangely, at least in Australia, you often pay more for booking directly. On multiple occasions I've checked a hotel's website and found aggregators with cheaper rates, then literally walked in the front door and asked what's the best they can do. It's worse and I end up getting my wife to book on her mobile phone from the parking lot and let her complete the check-in. Don't get me wrong, generally not a fan of midd…

I've heard booking.com forbids them to charge first-party customers less than the booking.com price, and the hotel is beholden to the site for income so they play along. The only people booking directly are basically idiots, so for those people they charge as much as they can. In the UK there are large chains such as Travelodge who have pulled out from booking.com entirely and made people go to their site.

Numerous times I’ve booked direct with the hotels and it’s cheaper than or same as 3rd party.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by lmm »

jb1991 wrote: post #284
lmm wrote: post #221

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> (For anyone who's ever tried to modify a reservation, the difference is astonishing. If you're booked with the hotel, all kinds of adjustments are at least possible. If you're booked with Booking, Travelocity, Expedia, etc., it's somewhere between hard and hopeless.) That's utterly backwards IME. On Booking.com, most modifications are the push of a button (that, crucially, is right there in the UI that I already kn…

tangential, but booking.com is an unscrupulous company, no one should use them on moral grounds

If there were an alternative that didn't suck, I'd look at it. But 95% of first-party hotel websites suck massively. So what's the option? AirBNB is far worse than booking.com in the moral stakes. I guess picking one of the big hotel chains and going with them might work for some people, but no one chain has good enough coverage IME.

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Post by wpm »

lelanthran wrote: post #200
PpEY4fu85hkQpn wrote: post #170

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"politics" is one way to describe him donating a large sum of money to a bigoted anti-gay cause and losing the trust of his employees.

Yeah, but ... It was a political effort. It was a movement that used the existing mechanism to promote a law they wanted, not a mob trying to get their way by shouting down others. You may not like how the process works, but it works the same for everyone. Trying to smear the ones you don't agree with as not legitimate doesn't work, because it's the process that you're smearing.

Bigotry is not a legitimate political position, no.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by matheusmoreira »

speedgoose wrote: post #298
matheusmoreira wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Politics. Stuff that's irrelevant to the development of Firefox. Which is the only thing Mozilla should be focusing on given how far behind they are.

Perhaps people don’t like to support people actively working against their rights. By using Firefox you support Mozilla, so you support the CEO financing political campaigns you don’t agree with. The CEO is a special role that represents Mozilla. It’s simple, the guy had to go.

> By using Firefox you support Mozilla, so you support the CEO financing political campaigns you don’t agree with.

I use Firefox because it's a functional browser with the best uBlock Origin support. Whatever political campaigns the guy in charge contributes to is not a factor, it's not even something I think about at all. I shouldn't even have to know who's in charge, if that information ever comes up it's probably a sign something's wrong.

> It’s simple, the guy had to go.

Mozilla is clearly worse off for it. Looks like the guy went and made another browser and now it's eating at Firefox's market share. Kind of ironic.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by labster »

ww520 wrote: post #306
rjh29 wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've heard booking.com forbids them to charge first-party customers less than the booking.com price, and the hotel is beholden to the site for income so they play along. The only people booking directly are basically idiots, so for those people they charge as much as they can. In the UK there are large chains such as Travelodge who have pulled out from booking.com entirely and made people go to their site.

Numerous times I’ve booked direct with the hotels and it’s cheaper than or same as 3rd party.

Booking.com requires the cheapest price, unless you are talking about the price from the hotel’s rewards program, which they will push very hard. It’s a contract loophole that works out for everyone except the non-savvy (or privacy-conscious) consumer.
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