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Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by jacooper »

caycep wrote: post #9
pachico wrote: post #4

Just the fastest and most ergonomic browser I've tried. I wish Firefox was like Brave, to be honest. Until that happens, I'll stick to Brave for both mobile and desktop.

I use both. Brave is better for the "chromium only" wonky websites/webapps. But the whole altruistic privacy thing is kind of undercut, at least optics-wise, by all the crypto/gamification upsell present by default. Not good when your supposedly privacy-focused browser requires extensive fiddling in the settings to shut everything off on initial install a-la Windows 11...

Honestly its very easy to ignore all the crypto crap. And its much better for your average user, since he/she will be private by just using brave, without any tinkering.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by Flimm »

nocommandline wrote: post #14

Read the announcement and it looks like there isn't an option to submit a site for crawling. If that's true, how do they discover new sites? My understanding of the 'the Web Discovery project' is that they're indexing your search and the results you click, anonymously but you won't see new sites in your search results which in turn means the new site won't be indexed by them

If you turn on "the Web Discovery Project" in the Brave browser, then a fraction of the web addresses you visit will be sent to Brave, even if the web pages weren't from a Brave Search SERP.

Source: https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/4409406835469-Wh...

> If you opt-in to the Web Discovery Project, your browser will process the following data on your device, and securely send it to Brave’s servers:

> - A fraction of the addresses (URLs) of the web pages visited in the Brave Browser, along with engagement metrics (how much time is spent on the page)

> - [...]

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by smoldesu »

IceWreck wrote: post #8

How is it that Brave managed to build an indexer and remove dependence on Bing in less than two years but DuckDuckGo hasn't been able to do it in a decade.

Their cut of BAT tokens is probably pretty significant. The number of people I met who thought they were "beating" the system by paying Brave 30% of their ad revenue was surprisingly high. I wouldn't be surprised if that surpassed whatever funding DuckDuckGo is able to raise.

If you want a personal indexer, host Searx.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by causi »

pachico wrote: post #4

Just the fastest and most ergonomic browser I've tried. I wish Firefox was like Brave, to be honest. Until that happens, I'll stick to Brave for both mobile and desktop.

I don't see why anyone would pick Brave over Vivaldi, especially on mobile.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by GCA10 »

Just started testing Brave Search, and it scored a rare 100 on the first test: If you type in the name of a favorite boutique hotel, will you get that hotel's true website -- or the usual hairball of third-party intermediaries?

(For anyone who's ever tried to modify a reservation, the difference is astonishing. If you're booked with the hotel, all kinds of adjustments are at least possible. If you're booked with Booking, Travelocity, Expedia, etc., it's somewhere between hard and hopeless.)

Brave gets it right. Bing, Google and even DuckDuckGo do not.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by artificial »

TigeriusKirk wrote: post #16
Flimm wrote: post #10

I've set Brave Search to be my default search engine for private windows (incognito mode). I've grown annoyed by the cookie consent dialogs and captchas that are presented to me by Google when I open Google's search engine in a private window. Brave Search doesn't have those annoyances.

It's been my default search for months. I go to Google for images and maps, but Brave search serves most of my needs quite well. But throwing a monkey wrench into the whole thing is my increasing use of Bing Chat. It's not really a general purpose search replacement, but it does do a more efficient job of answering basic questions succinctly.

Have you tried Yandex for image search? It supports searching by specific sizes like the Google search of yore.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by jraph »

riku_iki wrote: post #3
jacooper wrote: post #2

> Announcing the Brave Search API > In continuing our mission to offer alternatives to Big Tech, Brave is planning to release the Brave Search API. Through it, developers and companies will be able to build search experiences that compete on quality with Big Tech. Those interested should stay tuned for more details, or contact us at bizdev@brave.com. That's going to be very important for search engines like phind whi…

they have 200 employees on linkedin, many of whom are not engineers. How they can carry two such major and complicated projects(browser and search) with such headcount?

Can't say for search (it seems like massive work indeed - or maybe you can actually build a decent and comprehensive search engine with few people but with a massive amount of money), but for the browser they really provide a browser UI (and I'd guess most of it is actually built by Google too). It requires work, but it's not massive like a browser.

There are many browsers out there, maintained by a few devs, sometimes in their free time.

Konqueror, Gnome Web, qutebrowser, WebPositive...

Whatever the SerinityOS is doing, reimplementing a browser engine from scratch for their browser Ladybird [1], is vastly more impressive.

[1] https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/tree/master/Ladybird

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by rvz »

pachico wrote: post #4

Just the fastest and most ergonomic browser I've tried. I wish Firefox was like Brave, to be honest. Until that happens, I'll stick to Brave for both mobile and desktop.

The Mozilla CEO is to blame for the chaos they caused around Firefox, and them losing market share to Chrome for the past 14 years.

Mozilla is so dysfunctional that the CEO is rewarded a massive bonus for running the company to the ground and laying off their employees.

They are not interested in competing against Chrome; instead they are chronically dependent on Google's money and on life support, making over 80% of their revenue despite the Mozilla CEO saying that they would not fully depend on Google's money. in the future. [0]

I hope Brave makes Firefox (and Mozilla) even more irrelevant.

[0] https://web.archive.org/web/20120105090543/https://www.compu...

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by colordrops »

causi wrote: post #24
pachico wrote: post #4

Just the fastest and most ergonomic browser I've tried. I wish Firefox was like Brave, to be honest. Until that happens, I'll stick to Brave for both mobile and desktop.

I don't see why anyone would pick Brave over Vivaldi, especially on mobile.

Because brave is open source and Vivaldi is not.
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