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Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Just the fastest and most ergonomic browser I've tried. I wish Firefox was like Brave, to be honest. Until that happens, I'll stick to Brave for both mobile and desktop.

I don't see why anyone would pick Brave over Vivaldi, especially on mobile.

Vivaldi is not available on mobile (ios)

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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I don't see why anyone would pick Brave over Vivaldi, especially on mobile.

I used Vivaldi for a good year or two on my machines, but after some point Vivaldi was so slow to launch and to navigate. Maybe it was my setup, but other browsers were quick launch and use. Been using FF for several months now, maybe they fixed the issues in Vivaldi since.

Vivaldi has this issue with many tabs slowing down the whole UI, but the new v6 feature of workspaces allows you to move some tabs to a WS group, that improves UI performance

But yeah, that's one of their biggest issues

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Is there search independent? They have no page talking about their robot. The Cliqz index they acquired was a database of query url pairs scraped from Google. It is not obvious how true their claims of independence are or how they are building an index beyond further scraping of Google and opaque Brave browser add-ons

Do you have a citation for this? I can't find any sources to back this claim.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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That's the first result on Kagi, but I think that's because they just call Google behind the scenes for you. Edit: I didn't mean this to be an insult, I pay for Kagi and use it exclusively. But actually, the Kagi and Google first page of results look fairly different for this query, so Kagi is doing more curation and ordering than I realized.

That's pretty much how all small search engines work, but with varying backing indexes. Kagi's value-add is Google quality index (since they literally pay for it), no ads, their ranking algorithm, and tools to control the results that Google doesn't give you like blacklists and your own weights. $25/mo is unfortunately a little steep because their lower priced option with 700 searches/month is comically small. On jus…

As an early adopter, I reluctantly cancelled my Kagi plan today. It’s a great search engine, but even while just restricting it to one of my desktop machines and not using it on mobile at all, I ran up against the search limit with 10 days to go before renewal.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

#155
Great to have alternative entry points into the web.

DDG seem to do quite well in that a lot of their users will deem the relevance good enough, perhaps not aware of its 100% reliance on Bing. More often than not new search engine skins with comparable results to Google and Bing do tend to be the actual results of Google and Bing. Apparently the average searcher doesn't know nor care.

If everyone 'donated' at least a few searches a day to true alternative engines, it'd help diversify search, surely. The fact that Google has such a high amount of revenue per search has helped them price out competitors e.g. being defaults on browsers and devices. Can see why Brave would launch a browser to assist/complement search.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

#156

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As if every product you use isn't run/developed/maintained by legions of people you disagree with on at least one political issue. This is brought up every time there is a post on Brave. It's rather tiresome.

I don't care if people disagree with me, and I wouldn't have anything against him if he was just personally bigoted and wrote about how much he hates gay people on his blog or something. I don't think people should be canceled for expressing opinions, but that's not the same as funding an effort to actively harm people. He is entitled to his opinions, but he is not entitled to enforce them on other people.

People have opinions and inevitably their offspring usually adopt their opinions. There will be exceptions obviously but exceptions make the rule. For the most part that is probably how society changes over time. A high birthrate of Amish compared to the rest of the population could completely change the political landscape.

Anyway, there isn't any proof that Eich hates gay people in the way you imply. He didn't lead any anti-LGBT changes at Mozilla and there haven't been any at Brave. The commentary is that he did one thing that really offended a bunch of people. There just aren't compelling reasons to think he's a monster.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Just the fastest and most ergonomic browser I've tried. I wish Firefox was like Brave, to be honest. Until that happens, I'll stick to Brave for both mobile and desktop.

The Mozilla CEO is to blame for the chaos they caused around Firefox, and them losing market share to Chrome for the past 14 years. Mozilla is so dysfunctional that the CEO is rewarded a massive bonus for running the company to the ground and laying off their employees. They are not interested in competing against Chrome; instead they are chronically dependent on Google's money and on life support, making over 80% of…

How would a nonprofit expect to compete against Google? It's not exactly evenly matched is it?

Firefox on desktop has been more than good enough anyway.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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As if every product you use isn't run/developed/maintained by legions of people you disagree with on at least one political issue. This is brought up every time there is a post on Brave. It's rather tiresome.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with choosing products and services that don't align with your views either. Just look at conservatives trying to cancel budweiser & disney. I wasn't aware of Ein's outspoken and proactive homophobia, so this is still news to some.

Outspoken and proactive? Now you're reaching.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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I always buy directly from the hotel assuming that I will be treated better due to the hotel earning more money from me due to not having to pay commission to a travel agent. Also, I assume there is less probability of errors since when you reserve on a travel agent website, your reservation goes through an additional system before it gets to the hotel.

I worked for a travel startup for a bit and after that experience I only book airfare and hotels directly. Specifically with airfare, a 3rd party is not allowed to sell for less than the airline directly, so it's always better options since it is much easier to reschedule/cancel/refund directly with the airline. Plus, if you travel a lot, it is better to find a favorite airline and stick to them. Any bonus "features"…

Most contracts between an OTA and a hotel chain included language requiring no lower price when I worked for an OTA 10 years ago. Not sure about today, but would not surprise me that nothing changed. OTA's are useful as a comparison but you are always better off going direct. Other than TripAdvisor, most OTA brands are either owned by Expedia or Priceline, but they never let you know.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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DDG is too busy adopting the censorship policies of Big Tech to innovate against them.

what do they censor?

After the invasion of Ukraine they announced they would be removing sites "associated with Russian disinformation." They haven't provided a definition of what that includes.

Lots of DDG users were upset because this is the type of thing they objected to with Google.

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