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Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by autoexec »

cubefox wrote: post #53
rvz wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Mozilla CEO is to blame for the chaos they caused around Firefox, and them losing market share to Chrome for the past 14 years. Mozilla is so dysfunctional that the CEO is rewarded a massive bonus for running the company to the ground and laying off their employees. They are not interested in competing against Chrome; instead they are chronically dependent on Google's money and on life support, making over 80% of…

Mitchell Baker's salary is outrageous.

Wow, think of what just a little of that 5 million could buy in terms of bug fixes!

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by logicalmonster »

IceWreck wrote: post #8

How is it that Brave managed to build an indexer and remove dependence on Bing in less than two years but DuckDuckGo hasn't been able to do it in a decade.

DDG is too busy adopting the censorship policies of Big Tech to innovate against them.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by orzig »

benatkin wrote: post #85
sethherr wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not just use booking.com search then?

The convenience of hitting the back button and looking at other pages about them. Booking is the first page I want to check but not the only one. Sometimes I won't hit back, but my browsing habits are informed by being able to hit back.

You're allowed to have your workflow, but I'll add my n=1 that I want the exact opposite behavior, and I suspect I'm in the majority there

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by aacid »

I would really like to move away from google search, but unfortunately every other engine I tried sucks for localized searching... I get it that I come from small central europe country which is not that interesting market wise but it looks like google is able to provide relevant results while any other engine does not.

For example I tried brave to search for watch I'm currently considering buying. When using site:sk it gives me 3 results... Same google search returns thousands results...

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by eitland »

riku_iki wrote: post #3
jacooper wrote: post #2

> Announcing the Brave Search API > In continuing our mission to offer alternatives to Big Tech, Brave is planning to release the Brave Search API. Through it, developers and companies will be able to build search experiences that compete on quality with Big Tech. Those interested should stay tuned for more details, or contact us at bizdev@brave.com. That's going to be very important for search engines like phind whi…

they have 200 employees on linkedin, many of whom are not engineers. How they can carry two such major and complicated projects(browser and search) with such headcount?

search.marginalia.nu consisted of 1 Swedish engineer and 1 server last I heard and still managed to outclass DDG in a number of query types relevant to me.

In fact, back when I used DDG I think I fell back to marginalia more often than I fell back to Google, partly because of my dislike for Google and partly because Google doesn't respect my queries - which of course is a contributing reason for my dislike for them.

Let's say 100 of the Brave employees are engineers and 50 of them work on the Chromium skin, that still leaves 50 to work on search and related efforts. If 5 of them are as good as the marginalia guy and they are allowed to work with equally clear direction, lack of interruptions and more funding, I think that could almost explain a working search engine.

Remember: In the first 20 years of Google existence (or in any 20 years of the semiconductor age until recently) Moores law had over 13 cycles. A lot of what used to be hard problems before isn't anynore.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by oidar »

GCA10 wrote: post #26

Just started testing Brave Search, and it scored a rare 100 on the first test: If you type in the name of a favorite boutique hotel, will you get that hotel's true website -- or the usual hairball of third-party intermediaries? (For anyone who's ever tried to modify a reservation, the difference is astonishing. If you're booked with the hotel, all kinds of adjustments are at least possible. If you're booked with Book…

0% on my test: ;-; meaning

Google gets it right at the first page. Bing doesn't get it. DDG doesn't.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by slig »

rvz wrote: post #29
pachico wrote: post #4

Just the fastest and most ergonomic browser I've tried. I wish Firefox was like Brave, to be honest. Until that happens, I'll stick to Brave for both mobile and desktop.

The Mozilla CEO is to blame for the chaos they caused around Firefox, and them losing market share to Chrome for the past 14 years. Mozilla is so dysfunctional that the CEO is rewarded a massive bonus for running the company to the ground and laying off their employees. They are not interested in competing against Chrome; instead they are chronically dependent on Google's money and on life support, making over 80% of…

Firefox usage is abysmal on Desktop (from the Cloudflare usage stats which doesn't depend on JavaScript being enabled) and practically inexistent on mobile. My tech friends gave up, and normal users just use the defaults: Edge (which is good enough for them), Safari or whatever browser default browser comes with their smartphone. Mozilla needs to figure out how to attract new users, and focus.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by benatkin »

orzig wrote: post #93
benatkin wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The convenience of hitting the back button and looking at other pages about them. Booking is the first page I want to check but not the only one. Sometimes I won't hit back, but my browsing habits are informed by being able to hit back.

You're allowed to have your workflow, but I'll add my n=1 that I want the exact opposite behavior, and I suspect I'm in the majority there

You might be arguing for what people think they want if they're polled.

If Google always prioritized official websites, dollars to donuts, people wouldn't like it.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by minsc_and_boo »

cactusplant7374 wrote: post #62
doodlesdev wrote: post #50

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As if every product you use isn't run/developed/maintained by legions of people you disagree with on at least one political issue. This is brought up every time there is a post on Brave. It's rather tiresome.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with choosing products and services that don't align with your views either. Just look at conservatives trying to cancel budweiser & disney.

I wasn't aware of Ein's outspoken and proactive homophobia, so this is still news to some.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by slig »

aacid wrote: post #94

I would really like to move away from google search, but unfortunately every other engine I tried sucks for localized searching... I get it that I come from small central europe country which is not that interesting market wise but it looks like google is able to provide relevant results while any other engine does not. For example I tried brave to search for watch I'm currently considering buying. When using site:sk…

Suggestion: use Brave Search as default, and g! for localized queries. I did that with DDG and for a while with Brave Search, but now it's surprisingly good enough even for my country.
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