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European DSA Recipients of Services Report

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Re: European DSA Recipients of Services Report

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Post by ericpauley »

radicaldreamer wrote: post #9
DRW_ wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I'm surprised there are more Apple TV users than Apple watch users. I don't think these stats suggest that there are more Apple TV users than Apple watch users. They say more people use the App Store on tvOS than use the App Store on Apple Watch. As an Apple Watch user, I'm not surprised by that all. Why would I want to browse the app store directly on my watch? That's annoying and cumbersome. I do it on my phone, i…

Spot on, nobody uses the App Store on the Apple Watch, most people either never use third-party apps on the watch or only use companion apps which are installed alongside iOS apps

Wow, TIL there's an app store on the watch...

Re: European DSA Recipients of Services Report

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Post by permo-w »

rootusrootus wrote: post #58
smoldesu wrote: post #14

> because the goals of the DSA align with Apple’s goals to protect consumers from illegal content. An interesting gambit. It sounds like they want to concede to the regulators while using "illegal content" as the new boogeyman stopping people from freely using their device. The freedom-loving part of me wants the EU to push the DSA/DMA further, damning all the "content" boogeymen that exist. The realistic part of me…

> The freedom-loving part of me wants the EU to push I'd expect that writing this phrase caused actual physical pain from the cognitive dissonance.

it’s cognitively dissonant to believe that regulations cannot create freedom

Re: European DSA Recipients of Services Report

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Post by eptcyka »

anonymouse008 wrote: post #24
jsnell wrote: post #10

> iOS App Store: 101 million > iPadOS App Store: 23 million Asserting that the iPad App Store is distinct from the iOS App Store - and totally isn't in scope for the regulations - is certainly a bold strategy. I wonder why iTunes and Apple TV+ aren't included, and why Podcasts is only counting paid subscribers. Is there some obvious reason why these kinds of services would be out of scope?

Eh, I get the position here. Different device classes, different markets. I've gotten more than a few apps approved on tv, watch, Mac, iOS, iPad. They are distinctly different. As much as Apple is helping us leverage 'one code base to rule them all' there are so many gotchas and detail required to make great experiences on each.

Yeah, sort of how Microsoft could argue that there exists two separate markets for Windows running on stationary compute devices and Windows for mobile devices. Except this is a sad joke and letting Apple get away with two devices running the same OS would be playing into their hand that they stacked years ago when they split them off. What is up with the enormous amount of people on this site who are inexplicably apologetic to Apple and other FAANG giants.

Re: European DSA Recipients of Services Report

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Post by bunbun69 »

988747 wrote: post #49
apetresc wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that the definition of a VLOP is >45M MAU, and the iOS store is the only one that's even remotely close to being over that, what do you object with in this characterization? Also you left out the very next sentence , which completely reverses the interpretation you're trying to imply: > Nonetheless, Apple intends, on an entirely voluntary basis, to align each of the existing versions of the App Store (including…

I think the point is: App Stores for iPhone and iPads are in reality one and the same. Apple tries to artificially split them, so they can avoid regulations for at least one of them.

Show me where apple is avoiding regulations here

Re: European DSA Recipients of Services Report

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Post by gumballindie »

rpgbr wrote: post #66

Less than 1% of European iPhone users have an Apple Watch, or am I misreading something? I really thought this percentage was bigger in such a rich place.

All those riches are taken back as taxes. So while it sounds like europeans are rich it’s just on paper. But they take comfort in projecting their own status on similarly poor people from parts of europe that are developing faster but are bit behind since you know they only recently became free. It’s hilarious to observe and funny in a sad way.

Re: European DSA Recipients of Services Report

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Post by [deleted] »

eptcyka wrote: post #84
anonymouse008 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh, I get the position here. Different device classes, different markets. I've gotten more than a few apps approved on tv, watch, Mac, iOS, iPad. They are distinctly different. As much as Apple is helping us leverage 'one code base to rule them all' there are so many gotchas and detail required to make great experiences on each.

Yeah, sort of how Microsoft could argue that there exists two separate markets for Windows running on stationary compute devices and Windows for mobile devices. Except this is a sad joke and letting Apple get away with two devices running the same OS would be playing into their hand that they stacked years ago when they split them off. What is up with the enormous amount of people on this site who are inexplicably ap…

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Re: European DSA Recipients of Services Report

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Post by jd96 »

gumballindie wrote: post #87
rpgbr wrote: post #66

Less than 1% of European iPhone users have an Apple Watch, or am I misreading something? I really thought this percentage was bigger in such a rich place.

All those riches are taken back as taxes. So while it sounds like europeans are rich it’s just on paper. But they take comfort in projecting their own status on similarly poor people from parts of europe that are developing faster but are bit behind since you know they only recently became free. It’s hilarious to observe and funny in a sad way.

Far better to live in a low tax, failed state with extreme economic inequality. At least we’ve got Apple Watches, am I right?

Re: European DSA Recipients of Services Report

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Post by jd96 »

Jtsummers wrote: post #73
rpgbr wrote: post #66

Less than 1% of European iPhone users have an Apple Watch, or am I misreading something? I really thought this percentage was bigger in such a rich place.

This is monthly ??? Store users. Having an Apple Watch does not imply they use the Apple Watch App Store every month, or even any month. Even having an iPhone does not mean they'll use the iPhone App Store each month (though it's probably more likely).

What even is the Apple Watch store? Isn’t that just the iOS store?
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