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Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by lisasays »

logicalmonster wrote: post #92
IceWreck wrote: post #8

How is it that Brave managed to build an indexer and remove dependence on Bing in less than two years but DuckDuckGo hasn't been able to do it in a decade.

DDG is too busy adopting the censorship policies of Big Tech to innovate against them.

You mean in not caving to conservative-friendly "free speech" preferences? Its decision to downrank state-sponsored disinformation?

One can question the wisdom of these decisions - but ultimately it's a matter of editorial control, not censorship.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by yamtown »

Is there search independent? They have no page talking about their robot. The Cliqz index they acquired was a database of query url pairs scraped from Google. It is not obvious how true their claims of independence are or how they are building an index beyond further scraping of Google and opaque Brave browser add-ons

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by paulryanrogers »

rvz wrote: post #29
pachico wrote: post #4

Just the fastest and most ergonomic browser I've tried. I wish Firefox was like Brave, to be honest. Until that happens, I'll stick to Brave for both mobile and desktop.

The Mozilla CEO is to blame for the chaos they caused around Firefox, and them losing market share to Chrome for the past 14 years. Mozilla is so dysfunctional that the CEO is rewarded a massive bonus for running the company to the ground and laying off their employees. They are not interested in competing against Chrome; instead they are chronically dependent on Google's money and on life support, making over 80% of…

This ignores the fact that Google is the/a dominant player in at least mail, search, ads, and mobile. That both funds Google's browser and they can nag users to switch.

It's more surprising that Mozilla survives at all (and likely at Google's mercy with default placement payment) since the only other browsers who can hope to compete have massive subsidies from a larger business.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #38
thrdbndndn wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh, interesting idea. I personally deliberately book though Booking and alike because it's so nice to have everything hotel related in one place especially when having long trips.

I always buy directly from the hotel assuming that I will be treated better due to the hotel earning more money from me due to not having to pay commission to a travel agent. Also, I assume there is less probability of errors since when you reserve on a travel agent website, your reservation goes through an additional system before it gets to the hotel.

I imagine it's booking.com requirement that the hotel can't sell cheaper thought its own website, just like credit card companies forbid discounts for paying cash.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by bmarquez »

negidius wrote: post #101
cactusplant7374 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As if every product you use isn't run/developed/maintained by legions of people you disagree with on at least one political issue. This is brought up every time there is a post on Brave. It's rather tiresome.

I don't care if people disagree with me, and I wouldn't have anything against him if he was just personally bigoted and wrote about how much he hates gay people on his blog or something. I don't think people should be canceled for expressing opinions, but that's not the same as funding an effort to actively harm people. He is entitled to his opinions, but he is not entitled to enforce them on other people.

> he is not entitled to enforce them on other people

In 2008 when Proposition 8 was on the ballot, that Eich privately supported, even President Obama (candidate at the time) was publicly against gay marriage.

There needs to be some historical cultural context, supporting Prop 8 in 2008 is different than supporting Prop 8 in 2023. Now if Eich said he would support it in 2023, that's a different matter.

But I would still use Brave browser and search since it's a good product.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by lotsofpulp »

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #114
lotsofpulp wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always buy directly from the hotel assuming that I will be treated better due to the hotel earning more money from me due to not having to pay commission to a travel agent. Also, I assume there is less probability of errors since when you reserve on a travel agent website, your reservation goes through an additional system before it gets to the hotel.

I imagine it's booking.com requirement that the hotel can't sell cheaper thought its own website, just like credit card companies forbid discounts for paying cash.

The big hotel brands get around this by requiring customers to sign up for their rewards program to qualify for the discount.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by schmorptron »

I've been using brave search since it became public and it was known they bought tailcat.

Have been very happy with the search results, and for people who don't like the simpler programming tutorial sites you can even make a custom "goggle" to block those from the results completely.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by vkou »

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #114
lotsofpulp wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always buy directly from the hotel assuming that I will be treated better due to the hotel earning more money from me due to not having to pay commission to a travel agent. Also, I assume there is less probability of errors since when you reserve on a travel agent website, your reservation goes through an additional system before it gets to the hotel.

I imagine it's booking.com requirement that the hotel can't sell cheaper thought its own website, just like credit card companies forbid discounts for paying cash.

Yeah, but when the hotel over-books, guess which customers are the first to get their reservation cancelled/sent to the room with a leaky ceiling.

(It's going to be the Booking.com ones.)

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by jraph »

eitland wrote: post #95
riku_iki wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they have 200 employees on linkedin, many of whom are not engineers. How they can carry two such major and complicated projects(browser and search) with such headcount?

search.marginalia.nu consisted of 1 Swedish engineer and 1 server last I heard and still managed to outclass DDG in a number of query types relevant to me. In fact, back when I used DDG I think I fell back to marginalia more often than I fell back to Google, partly because of my dislike for Google and partly because Google doesn't respect my queries - which of course is a contributing reason for my dislike for them.…

> Remember: In the first 20 years of Google existence (or in any 20 years of the semiconductor age until recently) Moores law had over 13 cycles. A lot of what used to be hard problems before isn't anynore.

The web also grow tremendously, and probably user expectations too (in the beginning of the century we were told in school not to speak to search engine like we would to a human, but with keywords and operators). We also do and search for many more kinds of things

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