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Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Just the fastest and most ergonomic browser I've tried. I wish Firefox was like Brave, to be honest. Until that happens, I'll stick to Brave for both mobile and desktop.

I don't see why anyone would pick Brave over Vivaldi, especially on mobile.

Vivaldi user here. Excellent browser.

But I still really miss Opera from the old days. Vivaldi is the next best thing.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Just the fastest and most ergonomic browser I've tried. I wish Firefox was like Brave, to be honest. Until that happens, I'll stick to Brave for both mobile and desktop.

My experience has been the opposite. I wish Brave was more like Firefox.

I have Brave installed as an alternate browser (originally because sites like Twitch and Netflix performed poorly on Firefox, not so much the case anymore). And there's a noticeable lag when switching tabs that's absent in Firefox. And the memory usage - Brave uses as much memory with 10 tabs open as Firefox does with 100. It seems like "unloaded" tabs are not really unloaded at all, and continue to take up memory (which makes you question what unloading does) as long as the browser remains open.

I'm not sure what you mean by ergonomic, but I've been spoiled by Firefox's openness to customization, it was shocking to find that you can't even customize the toolbar on Brave to have your frequently used features handy.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the first result on Kagi, but I think that's because they just call Google behind the scenes for you. Edit: I didn't mean this to be an insult, I pay for Kagi and use it exclusively. But actually, the Kagi and Google first page of results look fairly different for this query, so Kagi is doing more curation and ordering than I realized.

That's pretty much how all small search engines work, but with varying backing indexes. Kagi's value-add is Google quality index (since they literally pay for it), no ads, their ranking algorithm, and tools to control the results that Google doesn't give you like blacklists and your own weights. $25/mo is unfortunately a little steep because their lower priced option with 700 searches/month is comically small. On jus…

I have the early adopter professional plan, but I must admit that while I consider myself very much a power user I have never been close to even 700 searches a month.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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My standard test for a search engine: "California style burrito in Austin" I got mixed results.

The "BraveAI" result was halfway decent, recommending a place I've never heard of, but not listing any of the other top ones I know of.

On the sidebar map, it listed a restaurant in New Hampshire. Hilarious, but not what I was looking for.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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I love how on mobile Brave browser you can add YouTube videos to your Brave playlist and then play them while your screen is locked. Also I switched from StartPage to Brave search, but I do wish Brave search had a translator feature. Like on StartPage I just search "translate" and get an input box. I find it better than most other browsers' translators.

using Brave on an iphone for Youtube is a godsend. Almost as good as desktop experience. Youtube app, Safari and Chrome suck enough to be unusable

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Just started testing Brave Search, and it scored a rare 100 on the first test: If you type in the name of a favorite boutique hotel, will you get that hotel's true website -- or the usual hairball of third-party intermediaries? (For anyone who's ever tried to modify a reservation, the difference is astonishing. If you're booked with the hotel, all kinds of adjustments are at least possible. If you're booked with Book…

It gets it wrong.

Sometimes I want the Booking.com.

Otherwise you'd fan the flames of the predatory brochure websites industry.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Just started testing Brave Search, and it scored a rare 100 on the first test: If you type in the name of a favorite boutique hotel, will you get that hotel's true website -- or the usual hairball of third-party intermediaries? (For anyone who's ever tried to modify a reservation, the difference is astonishing. If you're booked with the hotel, all kinds of adjustments are at least possible. If you're booked with Book…

Huh, interesting idea. I personally deliberately book though Booking and alike because it's so nice to have everything hotel related in one place especially when having long trips.

I prefer the hotel website but only if it's a really good website.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Just started testing Brave Search, and it scored a rare 100 on the first test: If you type in the name of a favorite boutique hotel, will you get that hotel's true website -- or the usual hairball of third-party intermediaries? (For anyone who's ever tried to modify a reservation, the difference is astonishing. If you're booked with the hotel, all kinds of adjustments are at least possible. If you're booked with Book…

Fails my personal benchmark, unfortunately: haskell megaparsec operators -> should return [0] somewhere high in the result set. Found it on the third page of Brave Search. For comparison, it's the very first result on Google, second page for Bing, and the third page for DuckDuckGo. Sure, it's a bit obscure, and I don't even write that much Haskell these days. But it's calibrated to determine whether I can rely on the…

Brave search also failed the old "office -microsoft" search by returning a ton of microsoft pages. Just to be safe I tried "office NOT microsoft" too but it was even worse.

DDG and Bing (no surprise there) fails at it too, but Google actually works.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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How is it that Brave managed to build an indexer and remove dependence on Bing in less than two years but DuckDuckGo hasn't been able to do it in a decade.

They bought the search engine when it went bankrupt. Still quite a feat and its results are actually better than ddg and bing.

Interesting, any links to info about that?

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It actually could be the opposite: since the OTA guest can leave a bad review, hotels may treat them better.

Anyone can leave a review on Google Maps and TripAdvisor and the hotel brands’ website, I assume a review on an OTA would not be any more valuable. As a side note, I wonder if many people pay attention to reviews outside of extremely low rated places.

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