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Aubrey Plaza Is the Unfortunate New Face of the Milk Wars

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Re: Aubrey Plaza Is the Unfortunate New Face of the Milk Wars

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Post by crummy »

jonathanstrange wrote: post #26

I'm with her. Once proponents of allegedly more ecological alternative products come up with their own names, I'll start considering them. Not being able to market their products on their own merits and instead piggybacking on popular categories like milk, steak, meat, burger, etc., usually just means that you won't get what you're looking for.

Wikipedia says 'In English, the word "milk" has been used to refer to "milk-like plant juices" since 1200 CE' so I think that boat sailed a long time ago.

Re: Aubrey Plaza Is the Unfortunate New Face of the Milk Wars

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Post by bambax »

thinkingemote wrote: post #22

As a drink a pint of milk is cheaper than bottled water.

Drinking raw milk seems to be a very American thing? I eat cheese and yogourts, but I have never drank raw milk in a glass, and don't think I have ever seen anyone else do it in real life. It looks really bizarre (and frankly, kind of gross).

Re: Aubrey Plaza Is the Unfortunate New Face of the Milk Wars

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Post by dTal »

Freedom2 wrote: post #21
harryf wrote: post #7

Nutrition tip of the day: if someone is spending serious ad money to try to get you to eat or drink something, don’t. What ever it is. Don’t. It’s not going to be good for you Once upon a time consumers were being encouraged to “drink radium water” https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec... … as a species we have not become significantly smarter since then

> It’s not going to be good for you How about water ads? Can you specifically address how water isn't good for us, leaving aside absurd arguments such as "drink too much, and you'll drown!"

I've never seen an ad for fresh running water from the tap. Bottled water on the other hand, in addition to being overpriced, often contains microplastics.

Re: Aubrey Plaza Is the Unfortunate New Face of the Milk Wars

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Post by kikokikokiko »

throwaway2056 wrote: post #30
kikokikokiko wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tell that to the Massai, that live basically on a diet of milk, meat and blood. Just because you wish it to be bad it doesn't change reality my dude.

Comparing hn-ers lifestyle/needs to that of Massai? not the best idea.

It's indifferent to the question. Some food is either healthy for human consumption or it's not. The argument is: if a population of humans exist that makes milk a very substantial portion of their diet, and is perfectly fine, arguing that it's bad for humans is complete stupidity.

Re: Aubrey Plaza Is the Unfortunate New Face of the Milk Wars

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Post by marcinzm »

malermeister wrote: post #23
dathos wrote: post #13

Looking at the comments it seems like most are just out of touch with gen z (or whatever gen) as big milk is. Cow milk is for baby cows.

Cow milk is a part of human culture that has enabled us to settle in places where we otherwise couldn't have. There's a reason lactose tolerance in Scandinavia is so high. In Winter, you can't get enough calories from crops. The only thing you have is inedible (to you) grass and bushes. Cattle is a way to convert that to something that can provide calories to you. The lactose intolerant in those places have been wipe…

And is it still used for that purpose? If not then I'm not sure why it matters what it was used for before?

Re: Aubrey Plaza Is the Unfortunate New Face of the Milk Wars

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Post by vineyardmike »

jonathanstrange wrote: post #26

I'm with her. Once proponents of allegedly more ecological alternative products come up with their own names, I'll start considering them. Not being able to market their products on their own merits and instead piggybacking on popular categories like milk, steak, meat, burger, etc., usually just means that you won't get what you're looking for.

But fake “milk” is used basically as a drop in replacement for milk. For example, I take “oat milk” in my coffee every morning. Realistically, most would never have tried it if it was “liquid oat product for coffee” (since you presumably can’t call it “creamer” even though that also contains no dairy). This edict is also totality ignoring that “soy milk” is quite old and has long retained that name to minimal confusion.

I haven’t seen anyone claim to make a fake steak using the word “steak”. I have seen “impossible burgers” but IMO “burger” is a food shape like “sandwich” or “pie”. I’ve also never seen “fake meat” use any wording to imply it’s meat. In fact, “meat substitute” is a pretty common phrase that is also apt in describing it exactly on its own merits. To be clear, replacing a popular category 1:1 is the merit.

Re: Aubrey Plaza Is the Unfortunate New Face of the Milk Wars

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Post by zamnos »

Freedom2 wrote: post #21
harryf wrote: post #7

Nutrition tip of the day: if someone is spending serious ad money to try to get you to eat or drink something, don’t. What ever it is. Don’t. It’s not going to be good for you Once upon a time consumers were being encouraged to “drink radium water” https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec... … as a species we have not become significantly smarter since then

> It’s not going to be good for you How about water ads? Can you specifically address how water isn't good for us, leaving aside absurd arguments such as "drink too much, and you'll drown!"

The water ads I've seen aren't for water from the tap, but are instead pushing bottled water which aren't quite the same thing.

Re: Aubrey Plaza Is the Unfortunate New Face of the Milk Wars

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Post by AmericanChopper »

WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #25
harryf wrote: post #7

Nutrition tip of the day: if someone is spending serious ad money to try to get you to eat or drink something, don’t. What ever it is. Don’t. It’s not going to be good for you Once upon a time consumers were being encouraged to “drink radium water” https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec... … as a species we have not become significantly smarter since then

Cheeky caveat: the government here spends a lot of money to get people to eat more greens. Then, what it does it actually means to be good for you? Clearly, people consumme milk/vegetable milk because they like the taste of it and not because it's healthy. I mean, milk is completely dispensable and some people can't digest it but it's not particularly bad either. It gots sugar and fat, a lot of calcium, not a panacea…

It’s not really a cheeky caveat. The parent commenter is just making silly unfounded claims, supported mainly be their use of the word “don’t” as an entire sentence. Plenty of healthy products are marketed to the public. There’s plenty of nutritional value in milk too, and nothing fundamentally wrong with it.

Re: Aubrey Plaza Is the Unfortunate New Face of the Milk Wars

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Post by vineyardmike »

OJFord wrote: post #12
MarvinYork wrote: post #5

As the last paragraph says: I would definitely try wood milk.

Maple syrup, (other) sugar(s).

Ok so you joke but there’s a product I discovered recently called Maple Butter or Maple cream and it’s amazing and based on the syrup.
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