Brazil judge orders temporary suspension of Telegram

Post by karp773 » Thu, Apr 27, 2023, 3:07 AM UTC

alwayslikethis wrote: post #3

Good luck. They tried to block it in Russia, but it simply broke their own internet for a while and the effectiveness was spotty until they gave up. To this day I believe there is quite little cooperation between the Russian government and Telegram, despite not being E2EE by default, if we don't consider conspiracy theories, unlike all the other services used in Russia which are basically all backdoored by the state…

Post by rektide » Thu, Apr 27, 2023, 3:13 AM UTC

comechao wrote: post #9

alwayslikethis wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So they should also hand out the names and locations of people organizing anti-war protests in Russia if ever requested.

Good point, that’s why this conversation has more nuance. In this case, a single judge from one of the Brazilian states has decided to take down an app for the entire country.

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Apr 27, 2023, 3:16 AM UTC

karp773 wrote: post #11

alwayslikethis wrote: post #3

Good luck. They tried to block it in Russia, but it simply broke their own internet for a while and the effectiveness was spotty until they gave up. To this day I believe there is quite little cooperation between the Russian government and Telegram, despite not being E2EE by default, if we don't consider conspiracy theories, unlike all the other services used in Russia which are basically all backdoored by the state…

"Blocking" in Russia was nothing else than an internal drill by KGB to check robustness to possible blocking in the target fields of operations, e.g. Brazil. If Russia TRULY wanted to block Telegram, then Mr. Durov, who accidentally operates from and resides in Russia, would have been kidnapped and tortured until Telegram goes down or he hands the keys over to KGB. Since Durov is still alive and free... the conclusio…

Post by jimbobimbo » Thu, Apr 27, 2023, 3:17 AM UTC

karp773 wrote: post #11

alwayslikethis wrote: post #3

Good luck. They tried to block it in Russia, but it simply broke their own internet for a while and the effectiveness was spotty until they gave up. To this day I believe there is quite little cooperation between the Russian government and Telegram, despite not being E2EE by default, if we don't consider conspiracy theories, unlike all the other services used in Russia which are basically all backdoored by the state…

"Blocking" in Russia was nothing else than an internal drill by KGB to check robustness to possible blocking in the target fields of operations, e.g. Brazil. If Russia TRULY wanted to block Telegram, then Mr. Durov, who accidentally operates from and resides in Russia, would have been kidnapped and tortured until Telegram goes down or he hands the keys over to KGB. Since Durov is still alive and free... the conclusio…

Post by buitreVirtual » Thu, Apr 27, 2023, 3:19 AM UTC

pmeira wrote: post #8

alwayslikethis wrote: post #3

Good luck. They tried to block it in Russia, but it simply broke their own internet for a while and the effectiveness was spotty until they gave up. To this day I believe there is quite little cooperation between the Russian government and Telegram, despite not being E2EE by default, if we don't consider conspiracy theories, unlike all the other services used in Russia which are basically all backdoored by the state…

Last year when something like this happened, it came out that there's a legal representative in Rio: https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/internacional/en/brazil/2022/0...