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The Role of Diet on the Gut Microbiome, Mood and Happiness

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Re: The Role of Diet on the Gut Microbiome, Mood and Happiness

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Post by Balooga »

I lost about 70lbs in about 10 months by cutting out processed foods, cutting out foods with added sugar, eating foods having a low glycemic index, eating a lot of chicken, whole vegetables, whole fruit. And by not juicing, and not drinking smoothies.

I also did a lot of strength training so as to lose fat and not muscle.

I didn't try to reduce the amount of calories I was eating, just change where those calories were coming from.

Weight went poof. Energy went way up and my mood improved.

Re: The Role of Diet on the Gut Microbiome, Mood and Happiness

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Post by blastro »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #39
blastro wrote: post #29

I sleep much better after eating basic food that my microbiome seems to enjoy: white rice.

heavy metals in rice https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7663342/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34073642/

thanks for that, I buy organic white rice from california which appears to be the least bad origin in those papers

Re: The Role of Diet on the Gut Microbiome, Mood and Happiness

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Post by el_don_almighty »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #84
amanaplanacanal wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I can tell the best research is that saturated fat is pretty neutral. Earlier research blaming saturated fat was flawed.

There is a whole mountain of evidence that saturated fat increases LDL cholesterol and better markers like Apo B. Placebo controlled, double-blind interventions. You can even run the experiment on yourself with monthly blood panels. Are you contesting that? That's pretty settled science. Low-carb influencers don't even deny that, so they instead try to hand-wave that high LDL/ApoB aren't a problem. Usually with some…

I was going to ask what you think "LDL" cholesterol means with regard to its actual fractional measurement instead of calculated volumetric level, but then I decided you seemed content with your worldview and it wasn't really disturbing me personally.

As I get older, I find more enjoyment using my magnifying glass for discovery than burning

Re: The Role of Diet on the Gut Microbiome, Mood and Happiness

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Post by hirvi74 »

mrleinad wrote: post #7
r_singh wrote: post #3

Has anyone researched the opposite? Like the role of mood and happiness on the gut microbiome. I was diagnosed with Celiac 5 years ago, could never gain weight and had my share of struggles with anxiety etc. I recently found a counsellor who told me to stop overthinking, seeking knowledge and a few other things which after following I gained 5 kilos and became a happier person. I always thought my gut was to blame bu…

Stress is the cause for many illnesses, yes.

For the 30 years I have walked this Earth, I have never been able to find a "healthy" way to manage stress.

In fact, I have had such bad problems with stress that it basically assisted in the emergence and continuation of an autoimmune disorder. So, I am quite aware of the damage stress can cause.

I have used plenty of unhealthy methods of managing stress, but the sad fact of the matter is that -- unlike yoga, warm baths, etc. -- the unhealthy methods actually work, and they tend to work really well.

Re: The Role of Diet on the Gut Microbiome, Mood and Happiness

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Post by hirvi74 »

jononomo wrote: post #88
coding123 wrote: post #31

My wife has to eat protein (in her case meat) with carbs. If she eats carbs with no protein she has anxiety. It's so awesome that we are finally studying things like this.

I have eliminated all plants from my diet, and it is indescribable how positively it affects your mental and physical health. It is like accessing an entirely new dimension of well-being. You can't even imagine how good it is possible to feel until you've ditched all plant-based calories.

How affordable are such changes for the average person? It seems like a carnivorous diet would be significantly more expensive than alternatives.

Re: The Role of Diet on the Gut Microbiome, Mood and Happiness

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Post by feoren »

stronglikedan wrote: post #27
runlaszlorun wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think most of us would agree that makes sense? Eat like crap, feel like crap? I’m just an average joe trying to figure out how to improve a diet, but I haven’t found much of a consensus regarding fats vs proteins vs carbohydrates.

I improved mine significantly by just cutting out processed foods. Almost everything I eat is made from whole ingredients, and no artificial or "diet" anything. I'm in much better shape, both mentally and physically, because of it. It also helps with portion control, since I'm getting the maximum amount of nutrients from my food, so I don't "feel hungry later".

> processed foods

> whole ingredients

These are utterly meaningless terms. You "process" food by cutting and cooking it. Everything is processed. Everything is GMO -- have you seen what corn looked like before humans bred it? Everything is organic. Everything is "whole". Nutrition is too complicated and too individualized for these nonsense labels.

> I'm getting the maximum amount of nutrients from my food

This is utter nonsense. Some processing steps remove some nutrients from some foods. Other processing steps add nutrients that you need. Plenty of foods have nutrients that are completely unavailable for your body until you cook it (many veggies) -- PROCESSING! Other nutrients are destroyed by too much cooking (Vitamin C, I believe). You better be glad the salt you eat is "processed" by adding iodine to it. The water you drink is "processed" by adding fluoride to it. Those last 2 are some of the biggest public health successes in human history.

I'm glad you're feeling better, but it's 100% from paying attention to what you're eating, and 0% from this bullshit about "whole" or "unprocessed" foods with "maximum nutrients". Stop spreading this bullshit.

Re: The Role of Diet on the Gut Microbiome, Mood and Happiness

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Post by thisisbrians »

samstave wrote: post #25
amanaplanacanal wrote: post #11

This doesn’t seem to be worded very well: > greater fat and carbohydrate intake is directly associated with anxiety and depression Carbohydrate was positively correlated, and fat was negatively correlated with anxiety and depression.

Your brain needs fats. Your muscles need carbs. You need to exercise both. Ill never forget the comment of my grandmother, a life-long surgical nurse to one of the top neurosurgeons in California. - My daughter was opening the fridge and eating handfuls of butter when she was tall enough to do so (abt 3 years old) I called my grandmother and asked her about this She said to me : "let her do it, the brain needs fats t…

The body can make carbs from proteins or fats. You don't _need_ dietary carbs (but will naturally get some in the course of eating a healthy diet).

Re: The Role of Diet on the Gut Microbiome, Mood and Happiness

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Post by feoren »

Balooga wrote: post #91

I lost about 70lbs in about 10 months by cutting out processed foods, cutting out foods with added sugar, eating foods having a low glycemic index, eating a lot of chicken, whole vegetables, whole fruit. And by not juicing, and not drinking smoothies. I also did a lot of strength training so as to lose fat and not muscle. I didn't try to reduce the amount of calories I was eating, just change where those calories wer…

> cutting out foods with added sugar, eating foods having a low glycemic index, eating a lot of chicken, whole vegetables, whole fruit

This is great advice for most people, depending on what "whole" means. Am I allowed to cut and cook my vegetables? Stick them in a food processor? Are they still "whole" then? I've never understood why people even bother to throw this word "whole" into anything. You just mean you didn't drink smoothies and concentrated fruit juice?

> cutting out processed foods

This is utterly meaningless bullshit.

> I also did a lot of strength training so as to lose fat and not muscle.

This may be the main reason you lost weight and feel better. If nothing else, it may be the reason you were able to stick to your dietary changes. I think everyone I know who lost a significant amount of weight was into strength training while they did it.

Re: The Role of Diet on the Gut Microbiome, Mood and Happiness

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Post by robwwilliams »

RugnirViking wrote: post #2

Interesting. Note this has not yet been peer-reviewed, so findings must be taken with an especially large pinch of salt even compared to your average paper. In this case, they only looked at 20 adults over 2 weeks, so I feel that any conclusions drawn here are circumstancial at best. Apparently the reseach was funded by NIH and therefore at least partly the taxpayer. Seems like a bit of a strange study to fund, in my…

Absolutely right. This is not even a proper pilot study.
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