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Commercial lunar lander presumed lost after moon landing attempt

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There were 2 other commercial landing that blacked out just before landing must be something they all didn’t take care of or maybe nasa is holding out some secret info

Once is chance, twice is coincidence, three times ...

If Kerbal Space Program has taught me anything, it’s that getting to the moon isn’t that difficult with enough rocket fuel. Stopping at the moon without blowing up and leaving a small crater, now that’s difficult.

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So you’re saying the moon landing was faked?

The US Government tried to get Twentieth Century Fox and other studious involved but they were risk adverse after a series of big budget flops and financial problems. Von Braun's joking suggestion of shooting on location was inexplicably taken up. It would have involved sending six Saturn V moon rockets to moon with flim crews and sets. But due to cost overruns and the run up the Vietnam war it was reduced to Neil Ar…

True. Everyone knows Stanley Kubrick directed the moon landing shoot. Due to budget cuts they just had to shoot on location with 2 Astronauts.

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It was heartbreaking to see the control room during the first few minutes after the landing. Imagine a project you've worked on for years going kaput and you won't even know why. None of these engineers will find sleep tonight. I hope some moon orbiter can take pics of the landing site soon.

According to the doppler telemetry analysis on Twitter, it entered free fall 90 seconds before loss of signal. So presumably the engine cut out and they have telemetry data to determine why. Most likely explanation: insufficient fuel.

> ispace engineers monitored the estimated remaining propellant reached at the lower threshold and shortly afterward the descent speed rapidly increased

https://ispace-inc.com/news-en/?p=4655

There's an unconfirmed supposition that they didn't cut over to the aux boosters from the main.

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If you're a private company looking to build a mining base station, tourist hotel, or any other thing a private company might want to do, then it's best to get the kinks worked out by practicing with an unmanned lander a few times first

> mining base station What would you be mining on the moon and what for?

Rmemeber that whatever you mine up there is valuable because of the position further out of our gravity well, not just because of mineral content

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Is there an actual commercial reason for landing on the moon? What was this lander going to do? It seems like a lot of missions from various companies and countries are trying to get to the moon and they're all crashing. Is it just a rite of passage for a space program? What is the point of this

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Re: Commercial lunar lander presumed lost after moon landing attempt

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Is there an actual commercial reason for landing on the moon? What was this lander going to do? It seems like a lot of missions from various companies and countries are trying to get to the moon and they're all crashing. Is it just a rite of passage for a space program? What is the point of this

The big reason not much happened in space in the past was cost. The Space Shuttle ended up costing around $60,000/kg to send stuff to space. SpaceX brought that down to $2,600/kg with the Falcon 9. And if Starship lives up to its potential, you're looking at $10/kg. You literally cannot overstate the impact of that change.

Space flights costs will start to become completely viable for small companies or even individuals. And for big players, the cost of travel itself will approach 0% of total costs. So basically the future of space is going to be decided by who can most effectively leverage this new frontier that's suddenly becoming completely accessible.

In a way there are some analogs with the internet. We're in that critical early phase where really good ideas, like selling books online, should still sound pretty stupid to most people. One thing that's very different though is that the change is not even remotely linear. We're going from room-sized glorified calculators to high powered laptops, practically overnight.

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This is why I do not understand people who would jump at the chance to live on a permanent Martian or Lunar colony.

We can’t stay here forever. This planet is 4.5 billion years old and has 1 billion years left. That’s assuming that our species will be able to survive so long.

A billion years ago fish hasn't evolved yet.

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Aerospace engineering is still a mix of both units. Especially on the aeronautics side, imperial is still widely used. Part of the reason for this is that past reference materials and tooling at many manufacturers still using imperial tooling. A team of good engineers is expected to be proficient with both unit systems --- its not really a big deal to use imperial on projects.

I guess an engineer should handle a imperial screw but deciding to use imperial units to exchange data in a software project seems so wrong.

Im American but have heard it’s common for 2-by imperial lumber units be used in Canada and uk for example. But metric would be used for cuts (which i think is easier often too)

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This is why I do not understand people who would jump at the chance to live on a permanent Martian or Lunar colony.

We can’t stay here forever. This planet is 4.5 billion years old and has 1 billion years left. That’s assuming that our species will be able to survive so long.

The ChatGPT, which will take over from us, according to HN, in 5 years, will find a way to reheat the core, or at least to explain convincingly that cold is cool.
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