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Shell admits 1.5C climate goal means immediate end to fossil fuel growth

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Re: Shell admits 1.5C climate goal means immediate end to fossil fuel growth

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Post by realreality »

ahelwer wrote: post #9

One eye-opening fact I recently learned is that fossil fuel infrastructure being built today is expected to have a three-decade lifespan, after completion of its construction. So every time you hear about a new pipeline, drilling project, or refinery being built you know that the people sitting in the rooms authorizing billions of dollars being allocated to the project all believe it will safely be operating and prod…

There are going to be a lot of "stranded assets" on a dead planet.

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Post by nxm »

ahelwer wrote: post #9

One eye-opening fact I recently learned is that fossil fuel infrastructure being built today is expected to have a three-decade lifespan, after completion of its construction. So every time you hear about a new pipeline, drilling project, or refinery being built you know that the people sitting in the rooms authorizing billions of dollars being allocated to the project all believe it will safely be operating and prod…

And where are those being built? Overwhelmingly in Asia and Africa

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Post by pbak »

nxm wrote: post #17
paganel wrote: post #13

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I’m willing to do my part once private jets get banned

And what, you want them to do zoom calls and fly economy, or horror (gags profusely) , take the train like some common peasant ?

The audacity !

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Post by Daishiman »

jdshupe wrote: post #12

Does anyone have recommendations for good reading on this subject? What this means for combustion engines as a whole? I am trying to imagine where the push for clean energy will lead. I am fully on team green but I think the switch happened too late. I feel like there is a future where you have a large percent of the population (at least in the US) where EVs are too expensive to afford the monthly payment/up front pa…

I am a complete and absolute cynic on climate policies and outcomes, but battery technology is still having ridiculous breakthroughs day by day.

Ultimately if the base price of a vehicle increases the financial instruments to make them affordable in the face of regulatory disincentives for ICEs will appear.

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Post by hkt »

andyjsong wrote: post #10
slashdev wrote: post #3

I’m not sure what’s the point of focusing on 1.5C anymore. I think the writing on the wall is pretty clear that we’re going to double that at least. Barring any miracle in carbon sequestration technology anyway. I hope we get a miracle.

Carbon sequestration is promising, but still years away. We need to start looking at stop gap solutions that buy us more time.

Carbon sequestration is trivial: we rewild destroyed ecosystems. We don't need to die waiting for Elon.

I await my downvotes.

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Post by nxm »

afavour wrote: post #22
paganel wrote: post #13

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To be clear: you’re saying we shouldn’t believe any science at all because a snap reaction to an emerging pandemic turned out to be excessive?

I think the point is there’s a lot hypocrisy of elitists telling us to reduce our emissions while they’re flying on private jets.

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Post by paganel »

tomtomtom777 wrote: post #23
paganel wrote: post #13

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Because methods to reduce our wasteful consumption, reliance on continuous growth and on the evidently harmful burning of fossil fuel aren't "hard sacrifices". They are progress. Necessary progress.

Those are the definition of luxury beliefs.

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Post by pfisch »

nxm wrote: post #17
paganel wrote: post #13

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I’m willing to do my part once private jets get banned

"Critics of coercive measures targeting private planes point out that a ban would only reduce carbon emissions by 0.2%, based on study of the direct cost of private jets alone."

https://flybitlux.com/what-is-the-carbon-footprint-of-a-priv...

Just admit you're not really intending to "do your part" at all. You just intend to whataboutism everyone else for the forseeable future.

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