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No, it's about defaults in behavioral economics. The vast majority of people won't change the default settings on their devices. https://www.centenecenter.wustl.edu/by-the-power-of-default-...
That's beside the point. If you don't have consent you don't have consent.
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> No one would ever buy that hammer again, right? I think you came to the wrong conclusion. Lots of people might still buy the hammer, and lots of people might knowingly buy the hammer, and even more, lots of people might knowingly buy the hammer and like that the hammer is being fixed when it breaks. I honestly don't understand why so many people oppose telemetry, especially when it's anonymous.
Can you imagine why someone might not want software containing their passwords and credit cards to stream data to a central server under the control of whoever wrote that software?
I've been a 1Password customer for five years. The move to 1password 8 has been beyond disastrous: terrible extension integration, browser constantly crashing when trying to log into the web panel, and the mobile app integration hardly works with mobile browsers. Add the recent announcements that the company will no longer support their last stable version -- 7 -- and move to using telemetry -- I'm out. I've jumped t…
I have no idea why they removed the 1Password android keyboard. It was such a convenient fallback. Autofill is extremely unreliable. Pity they can't gather telemetry on something that they have removed.
I did actually consider trying to PR a change to one of the open source keyboards in F-Droid but ... TBH, the new 1P feels less and less like team players so until they start to open up some of their own stuff, I shouldn't throw good glucose after bad
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Little worse is that the manifest deprecation was delayed into 2024, but that hasn't stopped them from killing the extensions in 3 months. I loathe having to migrate out of 1P 7, but there really is no choice now.
FWIW, I was a longtime 1P user and evangelist, and I moved to BitWarden instead of 1P8. The UX isn't as good, but I was giving up a native experience either way, and BitWarden is cheaper. The transition was very smooth, and I have no regrets! Plus, now I'm supporting an open source product, which is a nice bonus.
1Password, don’t do it!
Rely on other means to collect usability feedback like surveys, internal usability testing and developer tooling for build-time usability testing. Your app is simple enough that you absolutely, categorically do not need to subject your users to mass surveillance.
I am currently paying for a 1P family subscription and I will be moving to another provider or self-host a free/OSS password manager should your telemetry plans eventuate.
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You can use it for a lot more than just passwords, which IMO is what makes it stand apart from Bitwarden. You can store notes, credit cards, photocopies of IDs, software licenses, key pairs, etc. You get 1GB of storage. They really have turned it into a "vault" for anything digital.
> which IMO is what makes it stand apart from Bitwarden. You can store notes, credit cards, photocopies of IDs, software licenses, key pairs, etc. How is that any different than Bitwarden?
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You can store anything you want in it, as long as you are ok with seeing just the first 15 or so characters of the name you give it. Because the column that contains the contents of the vault is thin and non-resizable. Probably because they didn’t have telemetry so they didn’t know.
> thin and non-resizable I just checked and this works fine on macOS
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Imagine for a minute that you have a hammer. This hammer is a very useful tool and you have never had a problem with it. You don't know what is in the hammer -- could be steel, could be titanium, could be uranium (you're not a scientist!) -- but you know that it has always worked for you. Your experience with the hammer is so positive, you would buy another hammer from the company again, without question. One day, th…
> No one would ever buy that hammer again, right? I mean, you might not, but I don't see telemetry as such an evil. It does help make the product better. So "no one" is a bit too strong here, try "no one with my mindset" ;)
I had this belief before, that it helps makes the product better.
But I realized that telemetry is used against us. It helps the company push their own agenda, and manipulate the user.
For example, I'm used to update my Android apps manually. Google made it more and more difficult, version by version, to access the corresponding screen in the Google play app, in order to push for auto-update. They analyzed this through telemetry.
Users: We want standalone non-subscription licenses! 1Password: I really wish we knew what users wanted. Users: Please don't move to Electron, I don't want Chrome bugs in my password manager. 1Password: I'm just baffled. We never hear from users. Users: Please, for the love of God, give us control over our vaults. Don't go cloud-only, we're begging you! 1Password: Better turn on telemetry. It's the only way to solve…