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Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by ramraj07 »

DontchaKnowit wrote: post #226
brewtide wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a 9 and 7 year old and we are constantly enjoying such YouTube channels as "smarter every day", "veritasium" (spelling?), "Stuff made here", to some extent Colin furze, "technology connections", and other such edutainment. Not sure it speaks about differences in kids, in ages, in households, or likely a combination of sorts. Also, not a judgement on your kids, just a counterpoint about the resources available…

But those channels you listed are not educational, theyre "educational" e.g. you may learn some factoids about physics are learn about some cool experience but in no way will they impart to you a deep understanding of any subject. Those sorts of edutainment style videos are not ever going to compete against say, a college degree. Now there is excellent serious educational material on youtube, stuff like khan academy,…

When I was a kid I learned everything I could by watching discovery channel which in the late 90s was the equivalent of what you get from the Popsci YouTube channels. This was good enough for me to write a space settlement design proposal, submit it to NASA and win. The “surface level” stuff is more than sufficient to pique your interest and get a good understanding. Combine this with good schooling and you’re on path to be a great scientist leave alone a well learned person.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 »

"Even so, the real heroes of the site are not those who make original content. It is those who post old programming from the analogue age."

What the author is stating here, which may be lost on some readers, is that he thinks (video) file sharers are the real heroes of YouTube.

He thinks the heroes are not necessarily the folks who make videos intended for YouTube (original content), but the ones who generate digital video files from analogue content and upload (post) them to YouTube. (assuming the persons generating the digital video files are also the uploaders)

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Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by rcarr »

MonaroVXR wrote: post #62
irrational wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they had a youth where they could spend their entire time learning literally everything there is to know about their passion for free I have children between the ages of 9 and 26. You know what they are passionate about? Minecraft, Mr Beast, Travel vlogs, mommy vlogs, “reality” videos, etc. I’ve tried to introduce them to science, space, programming, history, math, finance, nature, etc. content and they don’t want…

> I’ve tried to introduce them to science, space, programming, history, math, finance, nature, etc. content and they don’t want to have anything to do with it. Anyone good suggestions?

Math - 3blue1brown

Programming - freecodecamp

AI - Andrej karpathy

Science - acapellascience

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by EGreg »

macintux wrote: post #190
EGreg wrote: post #154

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This is Hacker News. It is reasonable to have substantive discussion and correct mistakes. We are deep in a comment thread hardly anyone will see. So I think it’s OK to explain where I am coming from. It was innocent and well-intentioned. You just misunderstood the intention. If people say there is a systemic problem X in high school, and a high schooler confirms most of their friends have problem X, what do you thin…

The right choice was clearly option 3: “hey high school student, I’ve built something that I sincerely hope can help and I would be most grateful for any feedback”

I appreciate your opinion, for sure. I wonder why you don’t consider 2 to be the “right” choice if the goal was not to bias the answer, which 3 does. Just as 3 seems clear to you, 2 seems clear to me. Have you heard of tainting a jury pool, or biasing the answers?

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by ramraj07 »

stormfather wrote: post #155
brewtide wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a 9 and 7 year old and we are constantly enjoying such YouTube channels as "smarter every day", "veritasium" (spelling?), "Stuff made here", to some extent Colin furze, "technology connections", and other such edutainment. Not sure it speaks about differences in kids, in ages, in households, or likely a combination of sorts. Also, not a judgement on your kids, just a counterpoint about the resources available…

Can you attribute your kids' behavior to any actions you took or policies you had? Please don't be shy about it, I would love to inculcate that into my kids as well.

Not OP, but no matter what they say take it with a grain of salt. Rising kids is like throwing dice. No matter what you do (or don’t) within normal ranges of behavior, it’s pretty much a crapshoot to predict what comes out of them. The only correlation I’ve seen is they tend to emulate the parents’ intelligence levels and if you’re passionate about what you do, they might be too.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by EGreg »

evanchisholm wrote: post #192
EGreg wrote: post #69

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I think this may be useful for people who are already interested in learning various things on the internet, however I don't think it would necessarily pull most people away from the highly addictive content they are already consuming. In my experience people who are curious will find the resources they need to satisfy their curiosity and it's very hard to get those who aren't curious to engage with anything.

Thank you very much for your feedback! That is all I was looking for.

But somehow the sibling comment opened an interesting rabbithole — if you happen to scroll through its subtree I wonder what you think (since you’re the one I asked hehe).

PS: By asking this, I am not promoting rabbitholes! :)

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by ramraj07 »

durandal1 wrote: post #102
AlbertCory wrote: post #91

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The lesson I get from all these replies is (shock & horror!): Kids are different . I hear of kids who are intelligent, energetic, curious... all those good things. Probably NURTURE (i.e. the parents) has something to do with that. But then: also NATURE. Not having any kids myself, I'm not going to preach.

The variety in temperament, interests and ability between even siblings varies greatly. The people most eager to share parenting advice is usually parents only one child who is calm and attentive :) I've seen several parents in that category have a second child and come out shocked. I'm believe that beyond a base level of food, clean clothes and love, your influence as a parent is marginal. It's also a wildly unpopul…

If it’s 50% genetic, you’d see lineages of scientists or brilliant in whatever but it doesn’t seem to happen often does it?

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by throwaway835sd »

I never log in. I block all YT cookies. I use Enhancer for YouTube, Clickbait Remover for Youtube, and uBO. I never ever visit YT home page. I have a self-curated shortlist of channels that interest me enough to keep up with, via local bookmarks/notes.

No ads. No clickbait faces/emoji/etc. No distracting annotations/cards/referrals. No shorts. No auto play. The list goes on.

When used in this manner, YT is amazing. However, it is a bit of a shame that I have to go to these lengths just to make it bearable.

P.S. Yeah I know I’m a bit of a leech in this regard, but I do not agree with the business model that Google has chosen. And even still, I probably care about them more than they care about me.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by hackernewds »

the_only_law wrote: post #224
tambourine_man wrote: post #70

Another great thing about YouTube not mentioned is the quality of comments. Something happened in the last 5 years or so that changed them profoundly. Once the laugh of the internet they are now one of the most wholesome in it. Almost unbelievable for a public site.

> Another great thing about YouTube not mentioned is the quality of comments. Something happened in the last 5 years or so that changed them profoundly. What videos. I can certainly say some YouTubers attract much better comments, but on average YouTube comments still strikes me as one of the dumbest places on the internet.

OP's point though. The YouTube comments used to be an absolute joke and disaster. I'm sure it came at the cost of some non-insignificant revenue and engagement but there's a model where it works, that Twitter could emulate perhaps (if they cared).

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by hackernewds »

exo-pla-net wrote: post #222
tambourine_man wrote: post #70

Another great thing about YouTube not mentioned is the quality of comments. Something happened in the last 5 years or so that changed them profoundly. Once the laugh of the internet they are now one of the most wholesome in it. Almost unbelievable for a public site.

They shadow ban ~100% of comments, unless they detect positive sentiment. If you express any nuance or criticism, poof, your comment is disappeared. What remains is a sea of positive, fully vapid, fully useless comments: an authoritarian dream of milquetoast public discourse.

The problem with human comments are the humans?
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