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$appliancevendorname also doesn’t make +$20 programmable washers. Arguments like this only appear when there’s an urge for an argument. Just buy an unlocked android phone, they exist with similar or better hw for $500 less.
Technically there is no Android phone which has a better CPU/GPU than the latest iPhones. Not that it matters too much nowadays...
iOS 17 app sideloading might only be available in Europe
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Re: iOS 17 app sideloading might only be available in Europe
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I don't think things will be a problem. Distributing software is fairly easy; for most apps, uploading the app binary to their website as though it's an image file or video will be sufficient. And, then you get 30% more money for your business. It will be quite popular just for the cost savings. (Distributing software is not always easy, as game companies that have 100GB game downloads on launch day will tell you. Bu…
The issue about distribution is never the technical aspect you are describing, it's about getting people to visit that website/app store in the first place. If it were that aspect aspect companies like T-Mobile, Equinix, Vodafone, Orange would dominate it. Even after the the app store is available in Europe, these companies have no chance of success. That is what it looks like will be very undesirable because it will…
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No. Preventing people from doing something "for their own good" is never the right solution. Instead, we should strive to educate people on proper online safety measures so that they don't fall victim to fraudulent attempts.
Engineering disagrees. Having safety interlocks on machines is seen as necessary and sensible to prevent accidental harm. If you want to achieve something that you think sideloading is the only answer for then maybe try and find another solution? Btw. I’m not arguing we shouldn’t educate people about the dangers of phishing etc etc. just that engineers should find better solutions than shortcuts. Some people will nev…
Re: iOS 17 app sideloading might only be available in Europe
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That's moving the goalpost though
Why did you move them to only include a subset of devices?
Re: iOS 17 app sideloading might only be available in Europe
#345I think the central question here is: .) whether you buy a phone as a piece of hardware and then own that hardware - which gives you certain rights regarding the usage of that owned hardware or .) whether you are just paying some sort of admission fee to a tightly controlled service, and are basically "lent" a piece of hardware that you have no ownership rights over. All the other stuff about walled gardens, monopoli…
Related question: what does the user want? I doubt a majority of users are against side loading.
I don't want to download Instagram from Meta store where anything goes. (And yes, perhaps someone is going to tell me to simply not use Instagram. But I _want_ to use Instagram, I just want to do it on terms that Apple negotiates for me.)
*ofc I don't agree with 100% of their rules (especially the way they split revenue), but I'm mostly happy with them.
Re: iOS 17 app sideloading might only be available in Europe
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While that might be the choice we're making and it seems like the first is obviously what owning a device should be like. What if I actually want to pay a fee to a tightly controlled service? Like what if I do the math and determine that that benefits me more than actually owning the device? Should a regulatory agency be able to come in and tell this tightly controlled service they aren't doing it right when I am a h…
No, the second is perfectly fine. I pay a monthly fee for internet - and that's the admission fee I have to pay to access the service. And I get sent a modem/router - a piece of hardware - that I don't own, but that's only being lent to me. Absolutely nothing wrong with that.
So if apple accepts returns for their products for a reasonable amount of time, you don't really have a problem?
You definitely wouldn't buy a second iPhone either since now you understand what an iPhone is, when you didn't before?
What you're saying is your core problem with an iPhone is not structural, but semantic?
Re: iOS 17 app sideloading might only be available in Europe
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They pretty much are according to their ToS
Laws trump ToS of any kind. Do you disagree with that? If things are different in your jurisdiction, please do share how and why
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No one said anything about repairs - people are currently free to buy and fit their own wipers from 3rd parties because we have specific legislation that says manufacturers can't forbid 3rd parties from making spare parts. I don't see why the same shouldn't apply here. >>You should read this article[0]. It outlines clearly that victims are downloading .apk files I feel for the victims but I literally don't see how th…
I'm simply presenting a case in my own country. Where I've seen the negative effects of sideloading playing out. People's livelihoods are being destroyed. I do understand that sideloading is something desirable for some percentage of people. Point is every thing has pros / cons. Sideloading is like buying a car and upgrading it with NOS. Yeah it's wonderful. Your going to have a very powerful car. But the risks also…
No, sideloading is freedom. Imagine that car manufacturer put a part in your car that only works if: * watch ads or pay $ every month * collects all your information * has fake freedom to install only parts from their store that follow previous two points * extorts authors of parts for 30%
all while smugly saying "take it or leave it".
Re: iOS 17 app sideloading might only be available in Europe
#349Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. Preventing people from doing something "for their own good" is never the right solution. Instead, we should strive to educate people on proper online safety measures so that they don't fall victim to fraudulent attempts.
Engineering disagrees. Having safety interlocks on machines is seen as necessary and sensible to prevent accidental harm. If you want to achieve something that you think sideloading is the only answer for then maybe try and find another solution? Btw. I’m not arguing we shouldn’t educate people about the dangers of phishing etc etc. just that engineers should find better solutions than shortcuts. Some people will nev…
With these kinds of security problems you need to decide where the restrictiveness is best for society and I would very much argue that in the case of phone security it's on the side of sideloading.
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The last time I dropped my phone and broke its screen I took out the SIM and left the phone in a repair shop. I went home, put the SIM in an old phone. If the broken phone had an eSIM, would I been able to use the old one as a backup? Maybe by going to a shop and askig for a physical SIM. That would be slower and less convenient. A physical SIM fits in a Samsung A40 which is probably the smaller and lighter Android p…
If your old phone was also eSIM compatible, you can just download the eSIM from your carrier like you would if you moved to any other phone.