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Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant

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Post by sainez »

medler wrote: post #313
lotsofpulp wrote: post #281

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>the sky isn't falling on this company yet. I think the change in sentiment is that the sky is no longer the limit for Alphabet. Meta lost that notion big time, and Amazon is so so too. Apple and Microsoft might still be in the "sky is the limit" category, or at least in another category than the other 3.

Microsoft? They’ve been IBM for 20 years.

Microsoft would have become IBM, if not for Satya Nadella. He completely rejuvenated Microsoft after Ballmer's reign.

Microsoft successfully transitioned into cloud computing with Azure, Office 365, and Teams. They dramatically improved their image among developers/open source with WSL, Typescript, VS Code, and their GitHub acquisition. Now it seems they caught Google completely off guard with respect to AI productization.

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Post by cudgy »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #277
cudgy wrote: post #268

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If anyone is held to a perfect standard, shouldn’t it be someone making $220 million in a year?

>If anyone is held to a perfect standard The premise does not make sense to me. See: >No one is perfect.

Ok. Can we agree that some people are expected to be more perfect than others? Say the janitor versus the brain surgeon? Or the CEO versus the staff software engineer?

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Post by ohashi »

esprehn wrote: post #316
ikt wrote: post #314

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> if I grouped google products, I think successful and launched before 2006 would be the same In October 2006, YouTube was bought by Google for $1.65 billion.[11] Google Maps was launched in February 2005.[2] These are the last 2 Google products I use Search got replaced by DDG then Ecosia Chrome by Firefox Gmail by my own mail server My Pixel 2 ran out of security coverage and sick of buying a new phone every 2 year…

From what I observe Google Photos is quite popular. It's from 2015.

Because of android lockins. Not because it's a great product imo.

Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant

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Post by sainez »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #253
serverlessmania wrote: post #185

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Literally, nothing good, the chore of Google business is losing ground, Chrome losing more and more users in favor of Edge, Google search taking a hit since OpenAI and Microsoft partnered together to bring AI to search, serial acquisition and sunsetting of products, worse bureaucracy in the whole tech industry, and the list goes on!

Edge is basically chrome, no? They dominated so much that all other browsers are basically chrome. Our only other option is Firefox really.

They are not completely dominant, Safari still exists.

They are holding at a healthy 25% of the mobile market: https://www.statista.com/statistics/263517/market-share-held...

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Post by somsak2 »

popol12 wrote: post #318
ikt wrote: post #314

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> if I grouped google products, I think successful and launched before 2006 would be the same In October 2006, YouTube was bought by Google for $1.65 billion.[11] Google Maps was launched in February 2005.[2] These are the last 2 Google products I use Search got replaced by DDG then Ecosia Chrome by Firefox Gmail by my own mail server My Pixel 2 ran out of security coverage and sick of buying a new phone every 2 year…

Isn’t ecosia just a frontend to Google ?

bing

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Post by justinclift »

mrdrqr wrote: post #321
justinclift wrote: post #244

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Sounds like he's more suitable to be 2IC (eg 2nd in charge, not the leader) then?

Why even write 2IC if you then have to explain what it is?

Because it's a term familiar to some, and not to others.

What were you thinking the answer would be?

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Post by themitigating »

andrewstuart wrote: post #59

I simply don’t see what good this CEO has done. He’s destroyed googles reputation with developers. Destroyed customer trust in Google products. Done nothing to fix googles reputation for terrible customer service. Led Google to third place in cloud computing. AND been thrashed by Microsoft / ChatGPT, putting Googles core business at risk. Why is this guy CEO?

Are they making money? That's all that matters

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Post by ohashi »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #232
serverlessmania wrote: post #185

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Literally, nothing good, the chore of Google business is losing ground, Chrome losing more and more users in favor of Edge, Google search taking a hit since OpenAI and Microsoft partnered together to bring AI to search, serial acquisition and sunsetting of products, worse bureaucracy in the whole tech industry, and the list goes on!

Chrome is sitting near all-time highs in market share: https://www.statista.com/statistics/268254/market-share-of-i... . Search hovers around ~90% for the last several years: https://gs.statcounter.com/search-engine-market-share Google Cloud is growing faster than Azure & AWS for the last few years: https://www.statista.com/statistics/967365/worldwide-cloud-i... . Cloud was at ~4% market share 5 years ago, now it's a…

Except how profitable is Google's cloud? It lost 480 million last quarter.

AWS made 5.2B last quarter.

Google is selling at cloud at a loss to gain market share while it's biggest competitor is raking in profit. Sure, you can burn money and gain market share. But would anyone pick Google for a long term partner on any product? I sure as hell wouldn't. They have a tendency to simply discard products left and right. The support is non existent. Why tie yourself to such an unreliable partner?

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Post by morelisp »

Fricken wrote: post #282
prepend wrote: post #267

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> Sundar was the right person for this role. Was he? What is the evidence that he succeeded? Or even had more positive influence than random decisions? Does google have consensus over what it’s doing? Or is Sundar specifically a “safe,” milquetoast CEO chosen to not show up previous CEOs. I don’t know Sundar, but it seems he was picked because google leadership assumed supremacy and thought that they just needed a st…

Sundar was chosen following a series of failures by megalomaniacal executives Larry had appointed/approved to head various departments, including Andy Rubin, Tony Fadell, and Anthony Levandwoski. Sundar was a move in the opposite direction.

Don't forget Vic.

It's somewhat amazing how many failed, some nearly sociopathic, almost-CEOs Google had.

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Post by el_nahual »

esprehn wrote: post #316
ikt wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if I grouped google products, I think successful and launched before 2006 would be the same In October 2006, YouTube was bought by Google for $1.65 billion.[11] Google Maps was launched in February 2005.[2] These are the last 2 Google products I use Search got replaced by DDG then Ecosia Chrome by Firefox Gmail by my own mail server My Pixel 2 ran out of security coverage and sick of buying a new phone every 2 year…

From what I observe Google Photos is quite popular. It's from 2015.

The creation of Google Photos was basically an act of mutiny by David Lieb.

He kept getting told to stop working on it and he kept doing it anyway. Eventually resorting to back-channeling to Larry in order to get him to champion the project.

He tells the story in an episode of the podcast "The Social Radars."

Pretty good listen.

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