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Post by lotsofpulp »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #232
serverlessmania wrote: post #185

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Literally, nothing good, the chore of Google business is losing ground, Chrome losing more and more users in favor of Edge, Google search taking a hit since OpenAI and Microsoft partnered together to bring AI to search, serial acquisition and sunsetting of products, worse bureaucracy in the whole tech industry, and the list goes on!

Chrome is sitting near all-time highs in market share: https://www.statista.com/statistics/268254/market-share-of-i... . Search hovers around ~90% for the last several years: https://gs.statcounter.com/search-engine-market-share Google Cloud is growing faster than Azure & AWS for the last few years: https://www.statista.com/statistics/967365/worldwide-cloud-i... . Cloud was at ~4% market share 5 years ago, now it's a…

>the sky isn't falling on this company yet.

I think the change in sentiment is that the sky is no longer the limit for Alphabet. Meta lost that notion big time, and Amazon is so so too. Apple and Microsoft might still be in the "sky is the limit" category, or at least in another category than the other 3.

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Post by Fricken »

prepend wrote: post #267
bmcquade wrote: post #153

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Sundar became CEO at a time when Google needed a leader who could build consensus across different product areas. Sundar was the right person for this role. Unfortunately Sundar is also relatively weak at setting a bold vision to ensure the company continues to grow and innovate, as Larry had done. So under Sundar the company has slowly shifted from being innovative to being very risk averse, incentivising not making…

> Sundar was the right person for this role. Was he? What is the evidence that he succeeded? Or even had more positive influence than random decisions? Does google have consensus over what it’s doing? Or is Sundar specifically a “safe,” milquetoast CEO chosen to not show up previous CEOs. I don’t know Sundar, but it seems he was picked because google leadership assumed supremacy and thought that they just needed a st…

Sundar was chosen following a series of failures by megalomaniacal executives Larry had appointed/approved to head various departments, including Andy Rubin, Tony Fadell, and Anthony Levandwoski. Sundar was a move in the opposite direction.

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Post by cudgy »

saiya-jin wrote: post #144
sidcool wrote: post #20

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CEO made bad decisions that many other companies avoided. CEO panicked and fired thousands unprofessionally. CEO received record compensation.

Basically all your words are incorrect and project some bad kind of emotions you are housing, all points addressed all around here. Can't we do a bit better than tabloid outrage fueled by just raw emotions? He did correct the course which was right thing to do. Hiring previously was also the right decision at that time, properly nobody knew covid scare would taper off so quickly and people would revert some of the ne…

“just stupid short term populist moves for the simpler minds who don't think much ahead or in complex fashion”

Surely it was stupid to not realize that the last few years were temporarily fueled by Covid work from home trends and huge fiscal and monetary stimulus. If anything, the CEO making the same mistakes as all the other tech CEO’s indicates poor performance or at least average performance - not protection from criticism.

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Post by nxm »

Xelbair wrote: post #177
bmcquade wrote: post #153

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Sundar became CEO at a time when Google needed a leader who could build consensus across different product areas. Sundar was the right person for this role. Unfortunately Sundar is also relatively weak at setting a bold vision to ensure the company continues to grow and innovate, as Larry had done. So under Sundar the company has slowly shifted from being innovative to being very risk averse, incentivising not making…

so to paraphrase, he is a bean counter.

He’s the Steve Balmer of Google

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Post by xiphias2 »

oezi wrote: post #51
elbowjack65 wrote: post #25

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Moreover, Bing, ChatGPT hasn't even made a dent in Google's search engine market share [0]. [0] https://gs.statcounter.com/search-engine-market-share

Surprising, given that ChatGPT has replaced between 50% and 75% of my searches by volume.

For me it's ChatGPT4, but ChatGPT (the public version that people can generally use without paying) doesn't hit the bar.

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Post by kubb »

sysstemlord wrote: post #280
frankfrankfrank wrote: post #157

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I agree with you. What people seem to forget is that Google simply did one thing even just marginally better back in the 90s and has been riding that heavy train ever since. All the other stuff, even YouTube is also essentially just dumb luck and a function of that initial success, not to mention that Google was going to shut YouTube down before someone made the case for making it an ad platform, which should have be…

That's a little exaggerated though, Android, Google Maps, Photos, Gmail?

You're right about Gmail and Photos. Android and Maps are acquisitions.

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Post by nxm »

baby wrote: post #239
andrewstuart wrote: post #59

I simply don’t see what good this CEO has done. He’s destroyed googles reputation with developers. Destroyed customer trust in Google products. Done nothing to fix googles reputation for terrible customer service. Led Google to third place in cloud computing. AND been thrashed by Microsoft / ChatGPT, putting Googles core business at risk. Why is this guy CEO?

How much influence/impact does a CEO at such a large company have tho? Is it rly his fault?

See Satya Nadella at MS. Sundar has a lot of influence

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Post by jen20 »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #252
andrewstuart wrote: post #59

I simply don’t see what good this CEO has done. He’s destroyed googles reputation with developers. Destroyed customer trust in Google products. Done nothing to fix googles reputation for terrible customer service. Led Google to third place in cloud computing. AND been thrashed by Microsoft / ChatGPT, putting Googles core business at risk. Why is this guy CEO?

> He’s destroyed googles reputation with developers. He has? How did he do that? Literally, curious, first I've heard of it. > Led Google to third place in cloud computing. You don't need to be number 1 to make a profit. > AND been thrashed by Microsoft / ChatGPT, putting Googles core business at risk. I suspect you think google search is their core business. When it's ads. Also, just because Microsoft is ahead just…

> You don't need to be number 1 to make a profit.

GCP is not profitable, though. Or at least, was reported as not being during this calendar year.

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Post by VHRanger »

baby wrote: post #239
andrewstuart wrote: post #59

I simply don’t see what good this CEO has done. He’s destroyed googles reputation with developers. Destroyed customer trust in Google products. Done nothing to fix googles reputation for terrible customer service. Led Google to third place in cloud computing. AND been thrashed by Microsoft / ChatGPT, putting Googles core business at risk. Why is this guy CEO?

How much influence/impact does a CEO at such a large company have tho? Is it rly his fault?

As a CEO you can re-org things (eg. consolidate power) to have impact. Fixing this stuff is the job.
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