Ubuntu 23.04 – 'Lunar Lobster' • Hacker News Board

It’s not possible to freeze a working configuration with snaps as they always auto-update. This is problematic for deploying software that has known working dependency versions.

Edit: I didn’t know about the new updates to snap and pinning. Thanks for the info!

Re: Ubuntu 23.04 – 'Lunar Lobster'

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Post by smoldesu » Sat, Apr 22, 2023, 3:01 PM UTC

Gordonjcp wrote: post #3

bfrog wrote: post #2

With 100% more snaps? No thanks.

What exactly is wrong with snaps?

Oh boy...

- As a user: Snaps are annoying and don't work like a native app. It creates a new folder in my home directory, has little very consistency with other apps (even other packages of the same app), and feels generally unsuited for desktop use. If I'm going to use any of these godawful statically-linked-runtime package managers, it won't be the proprietary one.

- As an admin: Snaps are alright. If you just need to insta-configure something and are extremely lazy, it's a faustian deal pre-installed on every Ubuntu machine. As loathe as I am to admit it, most snaps are a cinch to install compared to native packaging or even Flatpak.

Re: Ubuntu 23.04 – 'Lunar Lobster'

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Post by Gordonjcp » Sat, Apr 22, 2023, 3:02 PM UTC

binarymax wrote: post #5

Gordonjcp wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What exactly is wrong with snaps?

It’s not possible to freeze a working configuration with snaps as they always auto-update. This is problematic for deploying software that has known working dependency versions. Edit: I didn’t know about the new updates to snap and pinning. Thanks for the info!

Yes you can, you just specify the channel you want to pin it to.

Re: Ubuntu 23.04 – 'Lunar Lobster'

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Post by asddubs » Sat, Apr 22, 2023, 3:08 PM UTC

binarymax wrote: post #5

Gordonjcp wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What exactly is wrong with snaps?

It’s not possible to freeze a working configuration with snaps as they always auto-update. This is problematic for deploying software that has known working dependency versions. Edit: I didn’t know about the new updates to snap and pinning. Thanks for the info!

lunar lobster introduces the option to put snaps on hold

Re: Ubuntu 23.04 – 'Lunar Lobster'

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Post by blendergeek » Sat, Apr 22, 2023, 3:11 PM UTC

Gordonjcp wrote: post #3

bfrog wrote: post #2

With 100% more snaps? No thanks.

What exactly is wrong with snaps?

The snap client only supports the Canonical Snap Store. There is not even an "advanced configuration" to add your own. I do not want a single point of failure in the Linux ecosystem. Canonical does.

Re: Ubuntu 23.04 – 'Lunar Lobster'

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Post by MattPalmer1086 » Sat, Apr 22, 2023, 3:16 PM UTC

Gordonjcp wrote: post #3

bfrog wrote: post #2

With 100% more snaps? No thanks.

What exactly is wrong with snaps?

Slow, proprietary, auto update, sandboxed (which causes integration problems with other things). Solves a problem for Canonical and makes everyone else's life harder.