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Animal meat and milk sales drop in Europe as vegan versions hit record highs

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Re: Animal meat and milk sales drop in Europe as vegan versions hit record highs

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Post by profeaturo »

deepsun wrote: post #6
mvdwoord wrote: post #4

Plenty to improve in food production, sure, but the current move towards hyper processed foods is dumb. They can take the animal meat (and eggs, and dairy products) from my cold dead hands..

Relax, no one is really considering meat foods to go away in the next 100 years or so. It's all about the access to the vegetarian and vegan foods to those who want it, and it happens to become more popular, so market adapts. But you present it like someone tries to take your food.

We’re only a few disasters away from the government deciding that the climate crisis requires drastic measures, including a severe rationing of meat and other products considered harmful to the environment. It’s clear from the rhetoric that this is the direction we are moving in, and it’s also clear that a great percentage of the population will comply and even celebrate such restrictions.

Re: Animal meat and milk sales drop in Europe as vegan versions hit record highs

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Post by roebk »

mg wrote: post #13

Vegans of HN: What do you supplement and why? Personally, I supplement VitaminD3 and Iron. And I make sure to eat salad, carrots and avocado every day. I came up with this regime after getting my blood work done and after exactly tracking all my nutritional values for a while and comparing those to the suggested amounts. I also have a long running project in the "statistics of one" space, where I track a lot of treat…

B12, Omega 3 with both (DHA and EPA), and vitamin D during the winter months.

I had some blood work done after 2 years of being vegan, largely to ensure my dietary shift hadn't caused any problems. This tested everything from cholesterol (lipid profile), iron profile, testosterone, B9 & 12, liver function, CRP and more. All markers we're either in the optimal or normal ranges. I eat reasonably well (I'm not perfect) and I try to keep processed foods - including fake meats - down to a minimum

Re: Animal meat and milk sales drop in Europe as vegan versions hit record highs

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Post by nor-and-or-not »

mg wrote: post #13

Vegans of HN: What do you supplement and why? Personally, I supplement VitaminD3 and Iron. And I make sure to eat salad, carrots and avocado every day. I came up with this regime after getting my blood work done and after exactly tracking all my nutritional values for a while and comparing those to the suggested amounts. I also have a long running project in the "statistics of one" space, where I track a lot of treat…

B12 and Iron, depending on my levels of exercise also Magnesium.

Re: Animal meat and milk sales drop in Europe as vegan versions hit record highs

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Post by jpoesen »

karmakurtisaani wrote: post #17
kfk wrote: post #12

I am getting a bit deeper into the food industry since I started investing in a startup that plans to produce animal feed with insects. Animal feeds are prepared with specific properties, for instance, fish feed at 60% protein. The impact of different percentages of compounds is measured closely on animal well being, growth, weight… I am quite bothered that we don’t do the same for human foods. We lighlty compare rea…

It's funny you are worried about the impact of vegan alternatives and not, say, sugars, alcohol, overly fatty or salty foods, too much bad quality meat raised with hormones etc. It's almost like you have a bias against the vegan alternative.. Edit: ok so I was not terribly constructive with this comment, so happy to elaborate. I'm pretty tired of this argument against vegan meat. The nutritional values of vegan meat…

Whataboutism: check.

Re: Animal meat and milk sales drop in Europe as vegan versions hit record highs

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Post by sourcecodeplz »

drakonka wrote: post #21

Milk was one of the hardest things for me to replace, but a few years ago a brand of pea-based milk replacement was released that acts as an excellent substitute for me (for cooking and in coffee). Now, the last thing I'm missing is eggs and to a smaller extent cheese. There _are_ some decent cheese replacements out there, but none quite perfect, and I haven't found anything even close with eggs. But seeing these thi…

I have yet to find an unprocessed food as tasty and nutritious as eggs that I can prepare in under two minutes on the stove.

Re: Animal meat and milk sales drop in Europe as vegan versions hit record highs

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Post by ben_w »

kfk wrote: post #12

I am getting a bit deeper into the food industry since I started investing in a startup that plans to produce animal feed with insects. Animal feeds are prepared with specific properties, for instance, fish feed at 60% protein. The impact of different percentages of compounds is measured closely on animal well being, growth, weight… I am quite bothered that we don’t do the same for human foods. We lighlty compare rea…

Hmm.

While you're obviously correct that such things matter, I don't have the impression that people sweat those things for meat or dairy even before the vegan alternatives.

I'm using substitutes where possible, but count myself as vegetarian rather than vegan, mainly due to cheese. Vegan cheese substitutes do exist, but I can't use one single thing in all places: smoked tofu can go in a sandwich but it doesn't melt right on a pizza, the ones which do melt have zero-to-minimal protein. Milk substitutes are easier, but I still keep the soy for cereal and the Hafermilch for drinks.

Re: Animal meat and milk sales drop in Europe as vegan versions hit record highs

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Post by andrepd »

concordDance wrote: post #30
kfk wrote: post #12

I am getting a bit deeper into the food industry since I started investing in a startup that plans to produce animal feed with insects. Animal feeds are prepared with specific properties, for instance, fish feed at 60% protein. The impact of different percentages of compounds is measured closely on animal well being, growth, weight… I am quite bothered that we don’t do the same for human foods. We lighlty compare rea…

We've also been aggressively selecting traits in animals, grains, vegetables and fruits at an accelerating pace. I'm worried that modern carrots are lacking in nutrition due to being heavily selected for size and colour.

Vegetables you can buy at the supermarket are absolutely atrocious. Every time I go home to my parents' and have home-grown tomatoes I cry.
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