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Re: The EARN IT bill is back, seeking to scan our messages and photos

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They need to pass a 'public official' bill that ties any and all public official records to whatever is expected of the general population, no exceptions. This is the only true way to stop these type of bills.

Not just public records. Public officials should be on Medicare. Their retirement should be Social Security. Their staff should be subject to the same employment rules that apply to everyone else. And so on.

But Medicare and Social Security are unconstitutional.

Re: The EARN IT bill is back, seeking to scan our messages and photos

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A reminder that "you have nothing to hide" argument is a fallacy because people abuse their power: Some first hits as reminders of places where their powers are abused [1]: "NSA staff used spy tools on spouses, ex-lovers: watchdog" https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-surveillance-watchdog... [2]: https://reason.com/2022/07/26/police-can-access-your-ring-ca... [3]: https://reason.com/2021/04/26/warrantless-border-s…

Many seem to not realize that privacy is not about having something to hide (I guess that would be secrecy), but about the right to keep things to yourself. Those are two different concepts.

"Privacy is necessary for an open society in the electronic age. Privacy is not secrecy. A private matter is something one doesn't want the whole world to know, but a secret matter is something one doesn't want anybody to know. Privacy is the power to selectively reveal oneself to the world."

-- excerpt from A Cypherpunk's Manifesto, Eric Hughes, March 9, 1993

Re: The EARN IT bill is back, seeking to scan our messages and photos

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post #7

A reminder that "you have nothing to hide" argument is a fallacy because people abuse their power: Some first hits as reminders of places where their powers are abused [1]: "NSA staff used spy tools on spouses, ex-lovers: watchdog" https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-surveillance-watchdog... [2]: https://reason.com/2022/07/26/police-can-access-your-ring-ca... [3]: https://reason.com/2021/04/26/warrantless-border-s…

Many seem to not realize that privacy is not about having something to hide (I guess that would be secrecy), but about the right to keep things to yourself. Those are two different concepts.

There’s a reason we don’t mandate government cameras inside our homes. No one wants that. But in a world where everyone needs a computer, we shouldn’t take advantage of that obligation by turning our computers into surveillance devices.

Re: The EARN IT bill is back, seeking to scan our messages and photos

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4th amendment text: > The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Let’s name names, the senators who introduced this are Mr. GRAHAM…

It’s almost like they intentionally trolled future generations by mixing sentences that sound like iron clad protections with weasel words like “unreasonable” which anybody could foresee as being debated ad infinitum for centuries

Re: The EARN IT bill is back, seeking to scan our messages and photos

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post #101

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Why do these people continue to be re-elected at all? Surely there's some other (D) that could have replaced Feinstein a decade ago - but California keeps re-electing her? There's near unanimous agreement she "lost it" long ago - yet here she still is. A mandatory retirement age is great and all... but maybe we need to figure out why people vote for someone nearly nobody wants in the first place. Just the "safe" vote…

Only 24% of registered voters in California are Republican, so the election hinges on the Democratic primary. You don't get to a position in a political party where you can realistically run for and potentially win a US Senate seat by making a habit of attacking people in your own party. Those that do get ostracized long before they have that kind of juice, and the people who could potentially do it are not likely to…

I thought so too, but no! The California General Election is Dem vs Dem, and they choose Feinstein! It's bonkers!

Re: The EARN IT bill is back, seeking to scan our messages and photos

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post #7

A reminder that "you have nothing to hide" argument is a fallacy because people abuse their power: Some first hits as reminders of places where their powers are abused [1]: "NSA staff used spy tools on spouses, ex-lovers: watchdog" https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-surveillance-watchdog... [2]: https://reason.com/2022/07/26/police-can-access-your-ring-ca... [3]: https://reason.com/2021/04/26/warrantless-border-s…

Many seem to not realize that privacy is not about having something to hide (I guess that would be secrecy), but about the right to keep things to yourself. Those are two different concepts.

Reminder that the same applies to use of crypto. Just because it's use for some illegal activity (it's actually less % than fiat), doesn't mean it should be made illegal as I've seen some comments here advocating for in the past.

Re: The EARN IT bill is back, seeking to scan our messages and photos

#277

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That he’s not a free speech absolutist? big deal, nobody is no platform is, thats the expected default behavior everywhere you go and there is zero reason why HN would be different. I’m not even going to go into how this is a private platform with clearly stated rules for you because it doesn't even matter, just take the L

dang is welcome to enforce rules as he pleases, it's his platform (or rather publishing space). But restricting speech concerning those in power imply things that I would presume he would not want to imply.

implies what? I took a guess but you keep talking in riddles, use your words

Re: The EARN IT bill is back, seeking to scan our messages and photos

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Many seem to not realize that privacy is not about having something to hide (I guess that would be secrecy), but about the right to keep things to yourself. Those are two different concepts.

Exactly! The best way someone put it - right to choose what to share and who to share it with.

The best analogy for this I've seen is this: it's no secret that everybody poops. But that doesn't mean everyone likes having other people watch while they do it (privacy).

Re: The EARN IT bill is back, seeking to scan our messages and photos

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That he’s not a free speech absolutist? big deal, nobody is no platform is, thats the expected default behavior everywhere you go and there is zero reason why HN would be different. I’m not even going to go into how this is a private platform with clearly stated rules for you because it doesn't even matter, just take the L

This attitude isn't a good look for the owners of this private platform and I don't think they'd agree with your perspective nor do most of the users. Food for thought.

The users dont matter and will do the same thing on their own platforms once there are any stakeholders

The owner’s actions speak louder than their words and the moderations actions in their properties are not a mystery or unexpected

Re: The EARN IT bill is back, seeking to scan our messages and photos

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Strong men make good times. Good times make weak men. Weak men make bad times. Bad times make strong men.

Rubbish. Why can't this idiotic meme die already?

Because it's not a meme, it's an actual social cycle
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