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Re: The EARN IT bill is back, seeking to scan our messages and photos

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Post by Alupis »

pc86 wrote: post #91
borski wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I met her at an SVLG dinner and had a discussion about encryption; it became instantly clear she doesn’t know what a computer is past that it is a TV that takes input, and that encryption is just “evil people wanting to do evil things.” There was no reasoning with her either, frankly because she is well-aged, and thus thinks herself “wise” with very little left to learn. It was honestly infuriating. [edit] In case an…

Even among the dinosaurs in the US Senate, Feinstein stands alone in her striking ability to be willfully ignorant about anything developed after the steam locomotive. The country would be an objectively better place if both the House and Senate had a mandatory retirement age.

Why do these people continue to be re-elected at all?

Surely there's some other (D) that could have replaced Feinstein a decade ago - but California keeps re-electing her? There's near unanimous agreement she "lost it" long ago - yet here she still is.

A mandatory retirement age is great and all... but maybe we need to figure out why people vote for someone nearly nobody wants in the first place. Just the "safe" vote? That can't be all of the story...

Re: The EARN IT bill is back, seeking to scan our messages and photos

#102

Post by yamazakiwi »

brobinson wrote: post #56
trackflak wrote: post #17

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There is a Bible verse that says every deed done in darkness shall be named in the light. At times like these, I wish the deity who inspired it was a little more proactive.

"We can't expect God to do all the work."

That is unfortunate

Re: The EARN IT bill is back, seeking to scan our messages and photos

#103

Post by JohnFen »

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #59
dehrmann wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> FEINSTEIN Many years ago, I remember she supported a similar bill around limiting encryption. Around six months later, it was reported some government agency was spying on senators' emails, and she wasn't happy. I don't think she made the connection between the two, or that she supports widespread data collection when it's not her data.

This shouldn't be surprising. Even before she was old and "of questionable judgement" she was voting for and sponsoring stuff like this. Go back to the war on drugs era and you can find sound bytes of her advocating for all sorts of absurd stuff. And by "absurd" I don't mean "didn't age well but was the party line". I'm talking about stuff that violates rights in excess of what the average party politician was pushin…

Right. I wish people would stop with the ageist crap. Feinstein has always been highly problematic. Age has nothing to do with it.

Re: The EARN IT bill is back, seeking to scan our messages and photos

#104

Post by Alupis »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #89
coldpie wrote: post #36

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Her brain is pea soup. I'm pretty sure she is not capable of connecting things.

She has been on medical leave since February, which makes me wonder in what capacity she co-sponsored this bill... can she do that from her nursing home?

Having interned long long ago, most "co-authorships/sponsorships" are merely tokens added to a bill to make it seem more impressive.

Rarely, if ever, does a bill sponsor have much to do with the bill. At least in my experience. It was a game to see who we could round up for the bill, and then a political game about who would look better or bring a stronger base.

Re: The EARN IT bill is back, seeking to scan our messages and photos

#105

Post by duxup »

hammyhavoc wrote: post #84
duxup wrote: post #24

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I donate to the EFF, is that enough, I don’t know but I feel like I’m doing something.

Well, what quantifiable benefit is the public gaining from the EFF? Do you know where your money goes? Does what they publish reach anybody new? Or is it just preaching to the choir?

I don’t know.

Re: The EARN IT bill is back, seeking to scan our messages and photos

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Post by Alupis »

alistairSH wrote: post #80
jdminhbg wrote: post #66

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Because he represents their views and is an extremely powerful senator besides?

Exactly.

Unlike McConnell, there doesn't seem to be a lot of "regular joe" support for Feinstein. There's practically nobody in this thread singing her praises... even among her fellow D's.

Re: The EARN IT bill is back, seeking to scan our messages and photos

#107

Post by prottog »

pc86 wrote: post #91
borski wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I met her at an SVLG dinner and had a discussion about encryption; it became instantly clear she doesn’t know what a computer is past that it is a TV that takes input, and that encryption is just “evil people wanting to do evil things.” There was no reasoning with her either, frankly because she is well-aged, and thus thinks herself “wise” with very little left to learn. It was honestly infuriating. [edit] In case an…

Even among the dinosaurs in the US Senate, Feinstein stands alone in her striking ability to be willfully ignorant about anything developed after the steam locomotive. The country would be an objectively better place if both the House and Senate had a mandatory retirement age.

I think the reasoning behind not having an age cap in Congress is that if the people want to elect someone who is old, they should be able to do so. The ultimate check in a democratic society is the people, and like a different commenter said, it's strange that the voters of California continue to vote for Feinstein.

Re: The EARN IT bill is back, seeking to scan our messages and photos

#108

Post by JohnFen »

hammyhavoc wrote: post #79
jcutrell wrote: post #71

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For people who say they have nothing to hide, I ask them why they have locks on their doors, passwords to their email, and clothes on their body.

Well, clothes are mostly down to weather and laws on public decency, and nudists are the counterpoint that prove some demographics would prefer to be naked if the law allowed it, same with tribes like Koma. Locks are more for security than privacy, and it's important not to conflate the two. People can have nothing to hide, but also not want to be robbed. And as for email, that's again a matter of security because th…

> Well, clothes are mostly down to weather and laws on public decency

Where I live, there are no laws against public nudity (as long as the nudity isn't "salacious" in nature). And yet, very nearly 100% of the people are clothed at all times.

Re: The EARN IT bill is back, seeking to scan our messages and photos

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Post by WillPostForFood »

Eumenes wrote: post #48
dehrmann wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> FEINSTEIN Many years ago, I remember she supported a similar bill around limiting encryption. Around six months later, it was reported some government agency was spying on senators' emails, and she wasn't happy. I don't think she made the connection between the two, or that she supports widespread data collection when it's not her data.

She's mentally incompetent at this stage and should step down. Its obvious she's just a puppet.

She's not even a puppet, she hasn't been in DC or able to vote or participate in the Senate since ~Feb.

Re: The EARN IT bill is back, seeking to scan our messages and photos

#110

Post by pksebben »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #22

Here’s the link to send an email to your local representative. It’s a pre-filled form and takes less than 60 seconds to complete: https://act.eff.org/action/the-earn-it-act-is-back-seeking-t...

everyone with an opinion in this thread ought to do this. It really doesn't take any time at all.
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