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Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by elashri »

IndigoIncognito wrote: post #25
Aeolun wrote: post #24

Eid Mubarak! > no food or water But really no water? That doesn’t sound healthy. Of course you can easily make it through a day without fluids but…

People sit exams during ramadan, I don't know how

I had 12 years of pre-college education, 4 for university, 2 for Masters and 2 years of classes in my PhD ( I am candidate now) and I think I had exams while I was fasting in each year and it wasn't a big deal. I rarely even see a Muslim student break fast for exams. And I think people saying they request accommodation this week, that's usually because of Eid and the couple of nights before that we believe it is the night that quran was revealed to the prophet Mohamed, so people want to pray more at night (it is a probability not specific night from 21,23,25,27 and 29 of Ramadan)

Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by kjellsbells »

thuridas wrote: post #49
theobeers wrote: post #28

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No smoking all day is a big deal for many Muslims in the Middle East. One year I was living in Cairo during Ramadan, and each day when it got close to the sunset call to prayer (which heralds the end of the fast), it seemed like all the cab drivers had cigarettes in hand, waiting eagerly to light up.

It is a shame that it didn't lead them to stop smoking

Humans are hilariously fallible.

I find it interesting that , somehow, preparing for Lent, a time to eat simply and consider the elevation of your soul, became Mardi Gras, an excuse to let it all rip.

Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by Juliate »

dang wrote: post #103
Juliate wrote: post #77

I am a bit confused: are we going to get more similar posts (which is tangent to some proselytism, under the premise of well wishing?) for each and every religious faith major event around the globe? I am saying this as a former believer (and holding no grudge), definitely aware of the fine line between sharing and pushing cultural items, and balancing the two rather equally in a diverse team. EDIT: actually, it's a…

It's going too far to interpret this as "tangent to proselytism". People can wish each other well without coming close to that. The occasional celebratory post is fine on HN. If it were to become repetitive, it would get tedious quickly and we would downweight such posts in keeping with standard practice (see [1] and [2] about that). [1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... [2] https://hn.a…

Well noted, makes sense this way, thanks for the feedback!

Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by HopenHeyHi »

dang wrote: post #109
wmeredith wrote: post #82

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Religion-related topics are not anathema here, although religious flamewar is, and of course it's not easy to keep the two separate. Religion has been (and is) such a big part of humanity that it would be inconsistent with HN's core value of intellectual curiosity to try to declare it all off topic ( https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... ). p.s. Please let's not go into name-calling like "fr…

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Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by adityapurwa »

zvmaz wrote: post #58
adityapurwa wrote: post #52

Even deeper, the essence of Ramadan is to not eat and drink while you need it the most, during the day, where you work and get tired. It resonates with the feeling of holding your anger even when you have the rights to be angry. Holding your arrogance when faced against someone who had less money, fame, etc, than you. And Ramadan fasting is more than just not eating and drinking. You are not allowed to lie, to be ang…

A study on judicial rulings show a link between rulings and the time they have been issued between food breaks [1]. It appears that the more hungry the judges are, the less they show clemency. Similarly, living in a Mulsim country, I have not observed the virtues that supposedly stem from religious fasting. [1] https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1018033108

I mean its still our choices whether to fast and hold our urge to eat even when we needed it the most (hot day, tired).

The same that its our choices whether to hold our anger and resolve things peacefully and objectively (someone messed up at work, we have the power to blame and fire them).

Ramadan fasting is just a part of islamic practice, just doing Ramadan fasting might not give any virtues. But Islam also teaches to treat everyone objectively, be patient, hold anger, etc.

Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by nurettin »

edmundsauto wrote: post #89
hd4 wrote: post #80

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Hate to be that guy, but that's not at all what Islam says about why fasting was prescribed, and it's actually super clear about the purpose. I mean this is pretty basic, so I don't know why I keep hearing that same old line. "O you who believe, fasting is prescribed for you as it was prescribed for those before you, that you may develop God-consciousness." https://quran.com/2/183

I am not a religious scholar, but wouldn't God-consciousness include having empathy for all beings? I would partially define being enlightened as being able to experience everything in creation.

> wouldn't God-consciousness include having empathy for all beings?

A rabbit or a fruit isn't going to appreciate your understanding of its worldly struggles while you eat them, so why does it even matter?

Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by conradfr »

kioleanu wrote: post #45
IndigoIncognito wrote: post #25

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People sit exams during ramadan, I don't know how

In Germany, Muslim students had their exams excused this week, when everyone else wrote them. They can take them next week

Terrible idea and precedent IMHO.

Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by soulofmischief »

oneiric wrote: post #66
zvmaz wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A study on judicial rulings show a link between rulings and the time they have been issued between food breaks [1]. It appears that the more hungry the judges are, the less they show clemency. Similarly, living in a Mulsim country, I have not observed the virtues that supposedly stem from religious fasting. [1] https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1018033108

The Hungry Judge Effect has been debunked. Not that your larger point is not valid.

If you're going to claim something is debunked, a citation would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by tokyolights2 »

yousifa wrote: post #6

I will add, the fasting from food and water is the easy part. The more important fast is fasting from everything that is bad -- cursing, backbiting, lying, etc -- and from your own desires. All these things are things you shouldn't do anyway, but this is a time to refresh commitment to not doing those things. As the Quran says: "Oh, you who believe! Fasting is prescribed to you as it was prescribed to those before yo…

> and from your own desires

As a non-religious gay I probably wasn't invited anyway. But this kind of thinking is what leads conservatives to so much repression and hate. The idea that the wants and needs of your body are something which the mind must actively fight. That the scratchy, ill-fitting wool sweater of your culture is something that you must keep on at all costs. And it leads to resentment of people who are not under such self-imposed restrictions.

There is a reason in queer culture that 'shadiness' is a bigger sin than anger. Shadiness is what happens when someone represses their true feelings. Those feelings don't go away though, they just resurface in other unexpected and non-adaptive ways.

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