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Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by beebmam »

JumpinJack_Cash wrote: post #60
zvmaz wrote: post #38

Ramadan has little to do with intermittent fasting: the former is a religious prescription enforced by law in some countries [1], the latter is completely up to the individual. Happy Eid. [1] https://www-lepoint-fr.translate.goog/monde/algerie-2-ans-de...

> > enforced by law in some countries "Enforced by law"...if you want to eat in the privacy of your home that's between yourself and Allah. And besides...lockdowns were also enforced by law, but the law will never have enough men to police all the population, it would require a 1:1 ratio or thereabout. That's why the physical world is important as opposed to the virtual world where the ratio can be reduced drasticall…

I think the point is: should we really be enforcing religious laws in our societies? Seems deeply coercive and unethical

Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by islotr »

Just a reminder that Mohammed raped a nine-year-old girl, and women and girls under Islam are still suffering to this day under this perverse, misogynistic belief system. Eid Mubarak.

Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by simiones »

nullchan wrote: post #51
amriksohata wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its not particularly healthy, though many ancient cultures prior to Islam have used fasting as part of a way to cleansing of the gut. The relevance to the moon is also from Pagan cultures

Have you ever occurred to you that it might be the other way around? There was always one monotheistic religion and God, but then things got sidetracked and people started making stuff up. Also, Moon is relevant in Islam, as a calendar and timekeeping, nothing to be worshipped. Also, All Monotheistic Religions have had fasting (the 3 big ones that survived so far) but again, the worst enemy of the people is their own…

> There was always one monotheistic religion and God, but then things got sidetracked and people started making stuff up.

We know for a fact that this is false. For example, the Egyptians were building the pyramids and worshipping their gods at least a thousand year before any known monotheistic religion. The native people of Australia have even older polytheistic religions.

Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by iso1631 »

qntty wrote: post #56
zvmaz wrote: post #38

Ramadan has little to do with intermittent fasting: the former is a religious prescription enforced by law in some countries [1], the latter is completely up to the individual. Happy Eid. [1] https://www-lepoint-fr.translate.goog/monde/algerie-2-ans-de...

Intermittent fasting is when you fast intermittently

Well if going 10 hours (say in Scotland in winter) without food is "fasting", I do that pretty much every day, I rarely eat or drink between 2200 and 0900, and rarely eat between 2000 and about 1230

Not convinced that not drinking water during the day is a good idea, especially in hot countries

Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

Aeolun wrote: post #24

Eid Mubarak! > no food or water But really no water? That doesn’t sound healthy. Of course you can easily make it through a day without fluids but…

To be fully hydrated you need to drink water for 24 hours in advance. If you drink a ton of water before sunrise and after sunset, every day, you can still be properly hydrated. Not ideal of course, but not necessarily unhealthy.

Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by Juliate »

I am a bit confused: are we going to get more similar posts (which is tangent to some proselytism, under the premise of well wishing?) for each and every religious faith major event around the globe?

I am saying this as a former believer (and holding no grudge), definitely aware of the fine line between sharing and pushing cultural items, and balancing the two rather equally in a diverse team.

EDIT: actually, it's a topic in itself in a matter of company/team management. I saw a similar concern grow in one of my older team in a previous job, because the company "inclusion and diversity" department held a _very_ unbalanced and awkward take in this regard, talking a lot about some religious/cultural items, and ignoring quite a few others (from different equally present countries of origin and faiths), actually resulting in a fracture in the self-perceived image of the team. That's really a delicate matter.

Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by joshmanders »

xeromal wrote: post #59
Aeolun wrote: post #24

Eid Mubarak! > no food or water But really no water? That doesn’t sound healthy. Of course you can easily make it through a day without fluids but…

I'm not a muslim, but I've done ramadan for my own edification and really it seems fine. Ramadan isn't prescribed for anyone who's on prescriptions or unhealthy. The worlds top soccer players fast and are still competitive. On top of that, a large part of the middle east was conquered while the soldiers were fasting. The human body is quite capable of more than we give it.

I think society has gotten to a point that if we don't have 3 "well balanced meals" daily, drink a gallon of water a day, you're living unhealthy and bad.

But people don't realize that fasting is important to your body... We store fat to use during that time... That's the whole point of storing fat. Energy and that while you don't have it.

12 hours a day is absolute cake-walk for our bodies.

Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by throw1234651234 »

Questions to understand better:

1. Is the practioner supposed to abstain from "bad" things in the evening after breaking the fast or is it just during the day? What's the hardline, "accepted", and commonly practices answer to this? 2. Is the big dinner party thing on the last day of fasting or the subsequent day? 3. Do people get gifts, when?

Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by hd4 »

jacooper wrote: post #34

Another note, one of the main ideas of Ramadan is to experience the struggle of the poor, who can't find food to eat. > its purpose being to cleanse the soul by freeing it from harmful impurities. Muslims believe that Ramadan teaches them to practice self-discipline, self-control,[65] sacrifice, and empathy for those who are less fortunate, thus encouraging actions of generosity and compulsory charity (zakat).[66] ht…

Hate to be that guy, but that's not at all what Islam says about why fasting was prescribed, and it's actually super clear about the purpose. I mean this is pretty basic, so I don't know why I keep hearing that same old line.

"O you who believe, fasting is prescribed for you as it was prescribed for those before you, that you may develop God-consciousness." https://quran.com/2/183

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