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Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by xeromal »

joshmanders wrote: post #78
xeromal wrote: post #59

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I'm not a muslim, but I've done ramadan for my own edification and really it seems fine. Ramadan isn't prescribed for anyone who's on prescriptions or unhealthy. The worlds top soccer players fast and are still competitive. On top of that, a large part of the middle east was conquered while the soldiers were fasting. The human body is quite capable of more than we give it.

I think society has gotten to a point that if we don't have 3 "well balanced meals" daily, drink a gallon of water a day, you're living unhealthy and bad. But people don't realize that fasting is important to your body... We store fat to use during that time... That's the whole point of storing fat. Energy and that while you don't have it. 12 hours a day is absolute cake-walk for our bodies.

Yeah, fasting is great for letting our bodies recalibrate. 12 hours is nothing. It's parroted a lot but a large UK gentleman went an entire year on multivitamins, water, and a handful of other minerals to lose weight with no damage to his body. He was under doctor supervision so self-managed fasting is probably between 12 hours and 365 days.

Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by wmeredith »

Juliate wrote: post #77

I am a bit confused: are we going to get more similar posts (which is tangent to some proselytism, under the premise of well wishing?) for each and every religious faith major event around the globe? I am saying this as a former believer (and holding no grudge), definitely aware of the fine line between sharing and pushing cultural items, and balancing the two rather equally in a diverse team. EDIT: actually, it's a…

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Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by JumpinJack_Cash »

beebmam wrote: post #71
JumpinJack_Cash wrote: post #60

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> > enforced by law in some countries "Enforced by law"...if you want to eat in the privacy of your home that's between yourself and Allah. And besides...lockdowns were also enforced by law, but the law will never have enough men to police all the population, it would require a 1:1 ratio or thereabout. That's why the physical world is important as opposed to the virtual world where the ratio can be reduced drasticall…

I think the point is: should we really be enforcing religious laws in our societies? Seems deeply coercive and unethical

There will always be somebody who believes in their stuff so much that will try to enforce on others.

And that type of personality usually also aggregates in groups.

You are essentially able to escape from them as long as you are in the physical world, but in the virtual world everything can be policed much more easily.

Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by wincy »

iso1631 wrote: post #74
qntty wrote: post #56

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Intermittent fasting is when you fast intermittently

Well if going 10 hours (say in Scotland in winter) without food is "fasting", I do that pretty much every day, I rarely eat or drink between 2200 and 0900, and rarely eat between 2000 and about 1230 Not convinced that not drinking water during the day is a good idea, especially in hot countries

I roomed with two Saudis in college. They just become nocturnal and sleep all day.

Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by shepherdjerred »

iso1631 wrote: post #74
qntty wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Intermittent fasting is when you fast intermittently

Well if going 10 hours (say in Scotland in winter) without food is "fasting", I do that pretty much every day, I rarely eat or drink between 2200 and 0900, and rarely eat between 2000 and about 1230 Not convinced that not drinking water during the day is a good idea, especially in hot countries

You're right, most people do...

> Breakfast is the first meal of the day usually eaten in the morning. The word in English refers to breaking the fasting period of the previous night.

Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by tppiotrowski »

It seems like there is a geographical bound on practicing (Orthodox?) Muslims. I imagine past 66.5 degrees of latitude, someone fasting would probably die due to the fact that the sun will never rise for a month. Has there been any debate or clarification on how Muslims living in complete darkness are to practice?

Edit: sun will never set/living in 24 hour sunlight. The fasting time is during daylight hours.

Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by edmundsauto »

hd4 wrote: post #80
jacooper wrote: post #34

Another note, one of the main ideas of Ramadan is to experience the struggle of the poor, who can't find food to eat. > its purpose being to cleanse the soul by freeing it from harmful impurities. Muslims believe that Ramadan teaches them to practice self-discipline, self-control,[65] sacrifice, and empathy for those who are less fortunate, thus encouraging actions of generosity and compulsory charity (zakat).[66] ht…

Hate to be that guy, but that's not at all what Islam says about why fasting was prescribed, and it's actually super clear about the purpose. I mean this is pretty basic, so I don't know why I keep hearing that same old line. "O you who believe, fasting is prescribed for you as it was prescribed for those before you, that you may develop God-consciousness." https://quran.com/2/183

I am not a religious scholar, but wouldn't God-consciousness include having empathy for all beings? I would partially define being enlightened as being able to experience everything in creation.

Re: Tell HN: Eid Mubarak

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Post by Ratavata »

bena wrote: post #36
Aeolun wrote: post #24

Eid Mubarak! > no food or water But really no water? That doesn’t sound healthy. Of course you can easily make it through a day without fluids but…

From sunrise to sunset. Today, sunrise was about 6:30am and sunset will be about 7:30pm. That's only 11 hours with no food or water.

That's 13 hours.
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