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algorithmic recommendation systems are dangerous, how many times do we have to be shown this — it's like if you replaced all the mirrors in the house with carnival mirrors that make you look fat, of course this is going to cause some people to feel worse about themselves than regular mirrors!
algorithmic recommendation systems are dangerous, how many times do we have to be shown this — it's like if you replaced all the mirrors in the house with carnival mirrors that make you look fat, of course this is going to cause some people to feel worse about themselves than regular mirrors!
Blaming "algorithms" is really imprecise. Any media site has to use some algorithm to pick what content to present, even if it's a chronological sort algorithm.
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I'm not the OP, but I read that qualification as meaning "I'm not some right-wing nutter that's paranoid about Red Danger, and I don't believe everything mainstream media tells me".
I blame the broken ass left/right political spectrum that's so popular in the U.S. Liberal != Leftist And neither a leftist nor a liberal has to answer for Communist China. Nor do you gain any special "objectivity" about China by being either one.
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It's the conspiracy theory I 100% believe in. I don't think the reason to ban TikTok is that it gathers information, I think the reason to ban it is that its ranking algorithm is deliberately destructive. Maybe it's a coincidence that all the dangerous stunts and vandalism "pranks" come from TikTok and not Meta and Twitter, but I don't buy it. I'm leftist liberal and I have no particular paranoia about China, but I'm…
> I'm a completely leftist liberal I'm confused. Do you think the CPP is liberal? It's very authoritarian.
The two-party system makes for all sorts of weird alliances of distinct groups getting lumped together- there's really no reason that one's opinions on gun rights should be related to one's opinions on energy policy, or why one's opinion on abortion should be related to one's opinion on foreign affairs policy, but with two parties all these separate issues get grouped into two camps associated with either "Republican" or "Democrat" and then in turn everything "Republican" can also be called "Conservative" or "Right-Wing" and everything "Democrat" can also be called "Liberal" or "Left-Wing".
Using some academic definition of what "liberal" or "right-wing" or whatever meant in Europe in the 1890s or 1930s doesn't really work in popular English-language media today.
I still don't get how TikTok (and other "feed"-based social media) isn't regulated more strongly. We don't allow 12 year olds to buy cigarettes because they're harmful and addictive. These apps are no different, they just don't cause obvious physical diseases like lung cancer. It's clearly designed to entrap users in to addiction, but as a society we're still cool with it and it blows my mind.
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It's the conspiracy theory I 100% believe in. I don't think the reason to ban TikTok is that it gathers information, I think the reason to ban it is that its ranking algorithm is deliberately destructive. Maybe it's a coincidence that all the dangerous stunts and vandalism "pranks" come from TikTok and not Meta and Twitter, but I don't buy it. I'm leftist liberal and I have no particular paranoia about China, but I'm…
> leftist liberal That's an oxymoron.
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We are talking about kids. They will want what you teach them to want. With parents working insane hours in the US and outsourcing the socialisation and education of kids to electronics and corporations with perverse incentives, with local communities practically gone in an urban lifestyle, we are raising generations of porn addicted dopamine junkies. The west is fucked.
> we are raising generations of porn addicted dopamine junkies. The west is fucked. Agreed on the first point, disagree on the second. I think it’s a fixable problem. Addicts can recover and further damage can be avoided.
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It's the conspiracy theory I 100% believe in. I don't think the reason to ban TikTok is that it gathers information, I think the reason to ban it is that its ranking algorithm is deliberately destructive. Maybe it's a coincidence that all the dangerous stunts and vandalism "pranks" come from TikTok and not Meta and Twitter, but I don't buy it. I'm leftist liberal and I have no particular paranoia about China, but I'm…
> leftist liberal That's an oxymoron.
Recently, a group of high school girls jumped to their deaths in Matsudo, Japan, and the video trended on Twitter, and it showed up at the top of relevant searches for 'suicide'. To be honest, I think the priority display of this kind of shocking content is a problem not only for TikTok, but for social media in general.
I forget the details of it, but the point was that this could be extended to other behavior as well, possibly all behavior. The underlying connotation is that humans take on pack roles as pack animals, and are rewarded by connective activities, even suicide, as crazy as it sounds.
Social media is a conduit of behavior modeling. It is best for everyone to realize this.
I don't know how true it is, but allegedly[1] the algorithm of tiktok in china is tuned to promote achievements and education, while in the western world it promotes debauchery and stupidity. Doesn't take a huge leap to think it could be intentional.. [1] https://www.opindia.com/2022/07/tiktok-china-engineering-oth...