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TikTok’s algorithm keeps pushing suicide to vulnerable kids

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Re: TikTok’s algorithm keeps pushing suicide to vulnerable kids

#21
The question is how to keep kids off social media. I am very thankful neighbor mom, who bought her son a smart watch and not a cheap android phone. Good example for other kids. It’s clear, that departments with lots of clever people are doing to lock young kids in the phones. And only parents can protect them.

Re: TikTok’s algorithm keeps pushing suicide to vulnerable kids

#22

I don't know how true it is, but allegedly[1] the algorithm of tiktok in china is tuned to promote achievements and education, while in the western world it promotes debauchery and stupidity. Doesn't take a huge leap to think it could be intentional.. [1] https://www.opindia.com/2022/07/tiktok-china-engineering-oth...

I think an American comedian said this and it become a meme repeated by the right wing us media. The comedian has said it’s BS.

Re: TikTok’s algorithm keeps pushing suicide to vulnerable kids

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I don't know how true it is, but allegedly[1] the algorithm of tiktok in china is tuned to promote achievements and education, while in the western world it promotes debauchery and stupidity. Doesn't take a huge leap to think it could be intentional.. [1] https://www.opindia.com/2022/07/tiktok-china-engineering-oth...

It's the conspiracy theory I 100% believe in. I don't think the reason to ban TikTok is that it gathers information, I think the reason to ban it is that its ranking algorithm is deliberately destructive. Maybe it's a coincidence that all the dangerous stunts and vandalism "pranks" come from TikTok and not Meta and Twitter, but I don't buy it.

I'm leftist liberal and I have no particular paranoia about China, but I'm not going to pretend that we are besties

Edit: I won't remove the classification of myself as "leftist liberal" because it would make some of the replies to my comment confusing. I will apologize for it because it has derailed the discussion of China and TikTok. In the future I'll be more specific and avoid labels that no two people can agree on.

Suffice to say that I don't believe China deliberately created and released Covid.

Re: TikTok’s algorithm keeps pushing suicide to vulnerable kids

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post #2

They still haven't learned their lesson and its algorithm is just as bad as the rest of the other social networks, if not the worst. Perhaps they should be fined in the millions like the rest of the other social network companies like Facebook, Instagram, etc. Repeat offences should be increased into the billions if possible.

Personally the algorithm works just fine for me. If you interact with what you find is trash / comment / like it will show you more of that content. If you don't want to see it dont' watch it or comment on it. You'll stop seeing it and the items you WANT to see you need to interact with and you will continue to get more of that. If you watch / comment on suicide videos thats exactly what you will get in your feed.

Re: TikTok’s algorithm keeps pushing suicide to vulnerable kids

#25
Tiktok pushes what you interact with the most. If you comment, if you heart, if you watch it and content like it all the way through it assumes its the content that you like and will give you more like it. If you see something you don't like keep scrolling. It learns and stops showing that content.

Re: TikTok’s algorithm keeps pushing suicide to vulnerable kids

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post #13

Tik Tok is illegal in mainland China, the "local version" called douyin is heavily doctored to promote only positive messages. Ironic that CCP cry anti asian hate on the proposition to ban tik tok

You can freely view the kind of content available on Douyin:

https://www.douyin.com/

Here are the first five videos that were presented as an anonymous user:

https://www.douyin.com/video/7211500689002876164

https://www.douyin.com/video/7223312448332303668

https://www.douyin.com/video/7216732859879410982

https://www.douyin.com/video/7221862204251966760

https://www.douyin.com/video/7218887726920224000

Re: TikTok’s algorithm keeps pushing suicide to vulnerable kids

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I don't know how true it is, but allegedly[1] the algorithm of tiktok in china is tuned to promote achievements and education, while in the western world it promotes debauchery and stupidity. Doesn't take a huge leap to think it could be intentional.. [1] https://www.opindia.com/2022/07/tiktok-china-engineering-oth...

It's the conspiracy theory I 100% believe in. I don't think the reason to ban TikTok is that it gathers information, I think the reason to ban it is that its ranking algorithm is deliberately destructive. Maybe it's a coincidence that all the dangerous stunts and vandalism "pranks" come from TikTok and not Meta and Twitter, but I don't buy it. I'm leftist liberal and I have no particular paranoia about China, but I'm…

> I'm a completely leftist liberal

I'm confused. Do you think the CPP is liberal? It's very authoritarian.

Re: TikTok’s algorithm keeps pushing suicide to vulnerable kids

#28
Recently, a group of high school girls jumped to their deaths in Matsudo, Japan, and the video trended on Twitter, and it showed up at the top of relevant searches for 'suicide'. To be honest, I think the priority display of this kind of shocking content is a problem not only for TikTok, but for social media in general.

Re: TikTok’s algorithm keeps pushing suicide to vulnerable kids

#29

I don't know how true it is, but allegedly[1] the algorithm of tiktok in china is tuned to promote achievements and education, while in the western world it promotes debauchery and stupidity. Doesn't take a huge leap to think it could be intentional.. [1] https://www.opindia.com/2022/07/tiktok-china-engineering-oth...

It's the conspiracy theory I 100% believe in. I don't think the reason to ban TikTok is that it gathers information, I think the reason to ban it is that its ranking algorithm is deliberately destructive. Maybe it's a coincidence that all the dangerous stunts and vandalism "pranks" come from TikTok and not Meta and Twitter, but I don't buy it. I'm leftist liberal and I have no particular paranoia about China, but I'm…

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Re: TikTok’s algorithm keeps pushing suicide to vulnerable kids

#30
algorithmic recommendation systems are dangerous, how many times do we have to be shown this — it's like if you replaced all the mirrors in the house with carnival mirrors that make you look fat, of course this is going to cause some people to feel worse about themselves than regular mirrors!
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