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US could soon approve MDMA therapy

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Re: US could soon approve MDMA therapy

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PTSD can be caused by literally any traumatic, life-threatening situation. How is the US supposed to "solve" that?

erm... reduce the number of traumatic, life-threatening situations by taking away the guns? Get your police force under control and stop trying to control peoples minds and bodies could be a good start?

Someone has been spending a little too much time on Reddit

Re: US could soon approve MDMA therapy

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Can someone share any relevant experience with this? Best would be if you did it properly under supervision of clinical professional, or if you are a professional here, by any chance. Doesn’t matter if it’s US or not.

Have done it recreationally, and I can't imagine doing molly "under the supervision of a clinical professional." Seems like it would be absolutely awful. Don't recommend. I mean I really hope this helps a lot of people, but it's a hard pass from me. Would definitely recommend getting your hands on some and trying it with friends, though.

Re: US could soon approve MDMA therapy

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I see a few issues with your argument. Just because something has underlying social factors doesn't mean that it shouldn't also be treated with drugs and therapy. The latest wave of psychedelic research is not simply pushing a prescription drug; all of the research on MDMA, psilocybin, etc. is finding that these drugs work within a clinical setting paired with therapy. Also, I wasn't able to find a source saying that…

There's something about American culture that facilitates various psychological conditions. The aggressive, over-expressive, utilitarian individualism, the inability to just stay calm and quiet and think in solitude, the emphasis on material wealth and well-being and looking "sexy", the social warriorism and activism on the same issues.

What you're describing is an extreme of American popular culture, which is a small, biased selection of the American population. I'd be interested to know if there's any evidence that these traits are higher in the average American than in other countries. For N=1, I am pretty quiet, calm, spend plenty of time meditating, and don't really care about superficial appearances.

Re: US could soon approve MDMA therapy

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Sure, it will happen, but maybe it can be better regulated. But maybe it goes well with those ivermectin doses you also got prescribed over Zoom...

How about no. I shouldn't have to ask permission from bureaucrats and pay doctors if I think a medication can help me. I've taken adderall for 15 years now, and I still have to pay a doctor $200 (he doesn't take insurance) every 3 months for my prescription. That's about $12,000 I've paid him now, and he doesn't do a damn thing.

It's a money making scheme for sure, with gatekeepers and entrenched agents, not all medical providers are ethical...

Re: US could soon approve MDMA therapy

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erm... reduce the number of traumatic, life-threatening situations by taking away the guns? Get your police force under control and stop trying to control peoples minds and bodies could be a good start?

I am fairly skeptical of the claim that banning guns would significantly reduce gun violence. People who commit the most gun violence crimes (criminals) will find a way to get guns regardless of the laws. I live in a country where it's very hard to get weapons legally, yet almost every drug bust in the news also contains a significant amount of confiscated firearms.

FGC-9; everybody in Europe who wants a gun can trivially have it within a week without interacting with the criminal element or buying regulated components. That goes for modern ammunition too.

Re: US could soon approve MDMA therapy

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erm... reduce the number of traumatic, life-threatening situations by taking away the guns? Get your police force under control and stop trying to control peoples minds and bodies could be a good start?

I am fairly skeptical of the claim that banning guns would significantly reduce gun violence. People who commit the most gun violence crimes (criminals) will find a way to get guns regardless of the laws. I live in a country where it's very hard to get weapons legally, yet almost every drug bust in the news also contains a significant amount of confiscated firearms.

This past week in the US there have been several stories about people who were shot after ringing a doorbell or pulling into someone's driveway. Reducing the number of guns means that these people would not be able to enact this type of senseless violence.

It would also certainly cut down on the numbers of toddlers shooting their siblings.

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As an outsider, that American obsession with prescripted medication seems maddening. Many of these conditions are caused by underlying societal factors and are nowhere near as widespread outside the US. The American solution is to throw more pills at the problem, or ostracise the patients not willing to take that route. Even children are offered an ever larger number of pills, and are constantly challenged about thei…

I don’t think that’s a uniquely American problem at all. When you go to a doctor with a problem, the only tool they have available to help you is medical treatments. If you go to a doctor with a psychological problem, or a lifestyle problem, the only way they can help you is with a medical treatment. Any place you go in the world you’ll find huge amounts of mental health or lifestyle-related physical health problems, and they’ll either be untreated, or medicated. With the only factor that influences the ration between those two being how economically developed that place is. The only thing unique about the US is the amount of money put into healthcare. But they’re pumping the kids full of drugs in Australia too…

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I think his argument is that the US should focus on trying to solve the underlying issues, either first or at least concurrently

Except that it also includes a heavy dose on thinly veiled transphobia. Which is a contributing factor to mental issues and stigma.

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Re: US could soon approve MDMA therapy

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My views have changed about this a lot over the years. I've gone from feeling that medication is largely unnecessary and that there are alternative routes to feeling that carefully directed medications can and often should be used along with alternative therapies, when applicable. Just throwing medication at a problem and calling it a day will never be useful, but seeing a lot of people find success with a mix of med…

> Fixing society is a much larger (and ultimately fluid, unsolvable) problem so I feel like whatever people can do to find contentme But why is it unsolvable? As the parent comment noted, these issues aren't as prevalent in other cultures. So why here? Why is these so much pain that needs to be medicated? I'm not anti-meds. I think the re-introduction of MDMA and other formerly alternative meds is a good thing as the…

> As the parent comment noted, these issues aren't as prevalent in other cultures. So why here? Why is these so much pain that needs to be medicated?

They aren't "less prevalent". They're underdiagnosed and untreated.

Remember anti-vaxxers that yell about how vaccines caused autism? Except that western medicine started to correctly diagnose a lot of neurodivergent conditions better, that's why we realised that a lot of kids that can't stay still have a form of ADHD.

Re: US could soon approve MDMA therapy

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I am fairly skeptical of the claim that banning guns would significantly reduce gun violence. People who commit the most gun violence crimes (criminals) will find a way to get guns regardless of the laws. I live in a country where it's very hard to get weapons legally, yet almost every drug bust in the news also contains a significant amount of confiscated firearms.

This past week in the US there have been several stories about people who were shot after ringing a doorbell or pulling into someone's driveway. Reducing the number of guns means that these people would not be able to enact this type of senseless violence. It would also certainly cut down on the numbers of toddlers shooting their siblings.

Does the number of people getting shot by their toddler siblings or after ringing a doorbell make up a significant percentage of total gun violence?

If not, then banning guns would be, in software terms, a premature optimization.

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