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Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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I think the argument isn't that Reddit isn't corporate but rather that the original founders have thought it through a lot and have still decided to make this decision.

I'm sure Mark Zuckerberg thinks through all his major decisions a lot too. If you think a lot and your result is dark patterns, does that matter so much?

You seem to be assuming that if one says "they know well what they are doing" that's a defense of their actions, but I'd think it is much more often a denigration of them...

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> old-reddit isn't mobile-engineered Eh. I exclusively use https://old.reddit.com/ on both Desktop and Mobile, and never felt inconvenienced. Our cell phones are large enough today to use 2008-era websites without any additional bells and whistles. But, of course, people who are already used to whatever UI they chose are going to suffer. Alas.

I also use old.reddit all the time but come on, you seriously can't mean it's a good mobile experience. The text is tiny and you need to zoom in and out all the time just to be able to read anything. It becomes exhausting reading a comment thread by all the zooming. The image posts also don't have the actual image embedded, which makes it a really bad experience on mobile when you have to go to another URL just to lo…

I honestly think you might just be "holding it wrong"... instead of zooming in on the text, can you try just moving your phone closer to your head and see if that helps? I honestly use old.reddit.com on mobile because the font size is better: I am not zooming in and out, and I appreciate being able to see more of the thread at once. The "mobile optimized" version of the site feels like I am being forced to have tunnel vision and it makes it really difficult to read anything.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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If they want to monetize that old stuff, couldn't they just serve up an ad instead of an image for those ancient images, then display the full image if you visit the actual imgur page by deleting the .jpg extension? Or they could do what Facebook used to do (still does?), and put them on Blu-ray disk cold storage, then load them into one of those giant jukebox-esque machines that grabs the Blu-ray disk whenever someo…

TIL about FB Blu-ray disk cold storage. Thanks. https://www.datacenterfrontier.com/cloud/article/11431537/in... The blog post has a link to video from FB itself from 2014 and it has no audio. its not the first old FB video I came across that had no audio. Wonder if the cold storage has something to do with it. https://web.facebook.com/Engineering/videos/1015212866009720...

I wonder if this is actually cost effective.

In my data hoarding days (as a consumer, not FB scale), I found burning media an archive tool to be much more costly (and less reliable and more physical space) than simply using multiple hard drives.

Now, it could very well be that FB is able to buy burnable media at a much cheaper rate than consumers (i.e. perhaps there is more margin in media that massively bulk purchasing can reduce and the type of HDs that FB would buy would be more expensive than consumer drives, it could also be that actively used burnable media would be more reliable than actively used hard drives. while it's cold storage, its not frozen storage that is rarely used, with that said, the jukeboxes are probably expensive and suffer more reliablity issues than the hard drives), but on the consumer level, it just didn't seem to be a doable thing.

Ex: 8TB HD could cost $120. That's ~ 400 25GB single layer blurays. Now, 400 disks of optical media no matter how efficient one can store them will take up a lot more room than a single 8TB HD. For the 400 bluray blanks to be cheaper than the HD, they would have to be less than 30cents a disk. Glancing at amazon today, the cheapest I see for 25GB BDR blanks (and dual/triple/quad layer blanks are more expensive per GB, i.e. a 50GB blank would be $1.6 a disc) is about 40cents a disk. At that price level, you are better off just buying/copying to multiple disks for even better disaster recovery and it wont really cost you more than to store everything once on optical media.

anyways, if anyone could point out flaws in my assumptions (or why at FB scale the answers are different) I'd be interested.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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I think we live in an increasingly neo-victorian age. It's not just sex. It has become toxic to express a wide range of opinions. For example, the systematic deplatforming of conservatives. (I am a liberal, and my need to state that to be taken seriously is further evidence of all this.)

People aren't systematically deplatforming conservatives. People are systematically deplatforming hate. That that happens to affect one political party more than others is a condemnation of that party, not of the practice of deplatforming hate. Post all the conservative political opinions you want. As long as you stay away from posting hate, personal attacks, and similar, you're not going to lose your Twitter account

The trick is that "hate" can be defined to be whatever opinions one desires to censor.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Also, lots of top tier talent is being laid off, and many others are well-capitalized and eager to flee to fully remote companies, or to start their own companies. Looking back a decade from now, we'll notice that many of the unicorns will have been founded in 2023.

And it'll all be thanks to tightening monetary policy! Which is lighthearted, but not a joke. Economic theory says that the economic cycle helps to free up misallocated resources.

Isn't it also what misallocated those resources in the first place? Wouldn't it be better to never encourage people to just throw money away on subsidized BS business models that seem to mostly empower monopolies whose main barrier to entry is "has so much cash they can put any business that is wasting time trying to have revenue out of its misery"?

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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> As a regular user, it doesn't really change anything It absolutely does. There is tons of normal content that is tagged as NSFW for various non pornogrpahic reasons, and consdering 'regular users' includes the millions of people that use apollo, Rif, etc , thats a huge amount of the user base negatively effected.

Indeed! Just one example in /r/Diablo_2_Resurrected/ screenshots of very good, very rare items are marked NSFW because they're considered "disgustingly good" and because having to do an extra step to reveal the item provides a "rush" similar to gambling. I often use spoiler formatting for comedic effect, etc.

It's a recurring joke in /r/AoE2 (Age of Empires II) to label screenshots of particularly aesthetic base/farming layouts as NSFW.

For context, normally you are placing 3x3 tile farms either around 2x2 tile mills or 4x4 tile Town Centers, so you end up with a "pinwheel" at best. But the Poles can build a 3x3 Folwark (like a mill but makes your food come in faster if the farms are close enough) leading to some very satisfying ways to use building space efficiently and aesthetically.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Reddit has also recently announced moves in regards to NSFW content[1] by limiting data access to mature content more aggressively than they currently do. It seems like an area a lot of platforms are struggling with and seem to opt for a complete ban. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/12qwagm/an_update_r...

And already now they force you to log in to an account to view NSFW content, unless you go to old.reddit.com.

They stopped that recently i noticed. you get prompted to confirm youre over 18 without logging in required. They also got rid of that annoying "Continue this thread" linking and let you expand replies with a plus/minus icon without going to another page. It also seems like they fixed the way images are resized/shown in a post, because since the redesign i noticed you had to click 2 or 3 separate times to actually get an image without cropping or resizing, which felt so clumsy and annoying. As well as making a thread be overlayed atop with an "X" to close link at the top. That is gone for me also. Now it's actually usable like old.reddit.com is. I have no idea how they actually let that first redesign roll out it was terrible. Feels fixed now.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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> As a regular user, it doesn't really change anything It absolutely does. There is tons of normal content that is tagged as NSFW for various non pornogrpahic reasons, and consdering 'regular users' includes the millions of people that use apollo, Rif, etc , thats a huge amount of the user base negatively effected.

Indeed! Just one example in /r/Diablo_2_Resurrected/ screenshots of very good, very rare items are marked NSFW because they're considered "disgustingly good" and because having to do an extra step to reveal the item provides a "rush" similar to gambling. I often use spoiler formatting for comedic effect, etc.

joke's on you now. Looks to me like people were misusing a feature so bad consequences are not entirely a surprise...

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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I wonder what triggered this - legislation? Their payment processor? The ad network they get their revenue from?

In my experience, this kind of change happens much more often for money reasons than for moral reasons.

I think Tumblr's TOS change happened because their credit card processor became uncomfortable at them being essentially "in the porn business" - and indeed, seeing how much smaller Tumblr's business was post-change, the card processor was technically right.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Tumblr 2.0 incoming? It's a not-so-unspoken fact that a lot of social media platforms are popular because they have tons of pornography. Reddit, Twitter, OnlyFans (more openly) and (until now) Imgur all have massive communities around explicit content. Even Twitch and YouTube are hugely successful as ways for OnlyFans creators to drive users to their explicit content. Going to be very interesting to see if imgur drop…

I mean the site is ad infested and slow as hell to load, such a fall from their former grace when they were seen as an internet darling next to photobucket type sites when options for uploading and hotlinking were limited due to bandwidth constraints.

I think Reddit started hosting their own content or whatever the redgif site is seems to have taken over Imgur for a while now and the images/vids load lightning fast in comparison to Imgur with my ad blocker lighting up like a Christmas tree every time I visit an Imgur link. I would be happy to never visit that site again.

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