Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content • Hacker News Board

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by zen_1 » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 5:10 AM UTC

pclmulqdq wrote: post #45

jacooper wrote: post #42

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You sure? Twitter is notoriously known for asking for users phone number in every account, its practically impossible to have an active account without adding your phone number.

I don't know about you, but I personally have 5 Twitter accounts and 20+ Reddit accounts (sometimes you want to have different perspectives on an issue, have different front pages, or maybe manufacture a consensus). Only the main Twitter account has been asked for a phone number - I think they actually know about alt accounts and don't mind you having them as long as you don't do anything crazy with them. Don't worry…

With twitter I've found emailing support to verify you're a human has a decent success rate (and without sharing any PII)

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by pclmulqdq » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 5:10 AM UTC

SomaticPirate wrote: post #83

munchler wrote: post #67

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> maybe manufacture a consensus You're running a one-person troll farm? Please reconsider your choices in life.

Or manufacture controversy for engagement? For example, I posted the 4 comments above all from accounts I own (/s)

This is actually more useful to me today. If you want a good, well-researched answer to a question from an expert, you are much more likely to get it on reddit if there are a few "idiots" with wrong answers available for that person to dunk on.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by throwaway2990 » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 5:12 AM UTC

I wish imgur would go away entirely. It’s such a toxic community of people. If you are not aligned with their doctrine you get spammed with downvotes and some of the most hateful replies I’ve ever seen. You report it but it stays there.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by gscott » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 5:12 AM UTC

dimmke wrote: post #11

Can we please stop using “NSFW” as a euphemism for porn? I feel like I’m going crazy today between this and Reddit. The standard for something to qualify as NSFW is much lower than straight up pornography. It was originally anything you wouldn’t want your boss to see you looking at if he walked up behind you at your cubicle. The use of the term is incredibly vague. If you’re banning porn just say you’re banning porn…

I use NSFWWIBM (NOT SAFE FOR WHEN WIFE IS BEHIND ME). Because I work by myself NSFW doesn't apply.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by shmde » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 5:17 AM UTC

mylasttour wrote: post #8

etimberg wrote: post #4

Is this their tumblr moment?

It effectively is for large Reddit communities, as most of them rely on Imgur to upload NSFW content. There aren't many free image hosting sites as "generous" as Imgur (unlimited bandwidth, large sizes, no visible compression, "permanent") so it'll be interesting to see where they move to.

Reddit NSFW communities have already started their mass migration to redgif.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by rrrrrrrrrrrryan » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 5:19 AM UTC

Sakos wrote: post #70

mjr00 wrote: post #5

Tumblr 2.0 incoming? It's a not-so-unspoken fact that a lot of social media platforms are popular because they have tons of pornography. Reddit, Twitter, OnlyFans (more openly) and (until now) Imgur all have massive communities around explicit content. Even Twitch and YouTube are hugely successful as ways for OnlyFans creators to drive users to their explicit content. Going to be very interesting to see if imgur drop…

This obsession with banning sexual content is bizarre to me. "It's because payment processors yada yada", I don't care. It's fucking weird and unnecessary and tiring. We all want porn. Why does a single culture get to push its insane puritanical values on all of us?

There's a reason why MindGeek (the owner of all the major porn sites) is based in Montreal.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by adad95 » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 5:21 AM UTC

With this change and Reddit removing NSFW content from the API, at the same time. I think both sites will be way less used. And another competitor will appear quickly. Look like they want became irrelevant very quickly. Tumblr and Only Fans tried and falied. one became forgotten and the other had to say sorry was a mistake.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by rrrrrrrrrrrryan » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 5:26 AM UTC

slg wrote: post #80

fenomas wrote: post #30

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This strikes me as being at least as big a deal as the NSFW bit. For 10+ years, imgur has been many people's go-to way of hosting an image they want to post to a forum or whatever. Many of those people will have paid little attention to whether or not they were logged into imgur when they posted each image. In short, it sounds like a lot of image links are about to break.

Isn't this the cardinal sin of an image host? They are partially killing links in a way that wasn't previously communicated. And to make it worse, it directly targets what was previously the primary strength of the site, easy and accountless uploads with only a few clicks. Why would anyone use them as an image host again? I wonder if they are hemorrhaging money. This decision gives the impression that they simply don…

If they want to monetize that old stuff, couldn't they just serve up an ad instead of an image for those ancient images, then display the full image if you visit the actual imgur page by deleting the .jpg extension?

Or they could do what Facebook used to do (still does?), and put them on Blu-ray disk cold storage, then load them into one of those giant jukebox-esque machines that grabs the Blu-ray disk whenever someone click an ancient link and spend 60 seconds serving the image up or whatever.

Hell, write all the images with their URLs to magnetic tape and donate them to the Internet archive, and let them figure out what to do with them if/when they eventually have the funds.

Literally anything would be better than outright deleting those old images.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by AndrewPGameDev » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 5:27 AM UTC

mjr00 wrote: post #73

munchler wrote: post #67

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> maybe manufacture a consensus You're running a one-person troll farm? Please reconsider your choices in life.

Not that I'm defending the practice (and certainly don't have enough skin in the social media game to do it myself), but it is extremely common to have alts upvote/repost each other on social networks, or downvote brigade someone when you're losing an internet argument.

I doubt that even 1% of people using Reddit are using alts to upvote themselves or downvote brigade others. If you have any data to the contrary I'd be happy to hear it.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by deminature » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 5:33 AM UTC

ajacksified wrote: post #89

deminature wrote: post #55

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3rd party reddit apps rival reddit's own app in terms of popularity, and will be significantly hamstrung by these changes if NSFW content can only be accessed in the official app. Lots of non-porn content is marked NSFW. It may end up having a much larger impact than reddit corporate anticipates.

"reddit corporate"? Like Steve, who was the original founder and is the current CEO, or Alexis, another original founder, who is the executive chairman? There is absolutely zero way they're unaware of the impact and I guarantee you they have thought this move through thoroughly.

Fair enough, in that case this is Digg v4 levels of arrogance. Tons of moderators depend on 3rd party apps to moderate [1]. These people are providing free labor on an industrial scale to reddit and it might be wise not to frustrate their work.

[1] https://old.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/12qwagm/an_update_r...