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Making friends as an adult is hard (2021)

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Re: Making friends as an adult is hard (2021)

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> "Researchers also find that when we develop groups, our friendships are more sustainable than they are with individuals. Because there's multiple touch points now, right? Someone else in the group could reach out to all of us, and then we all keep in touch." This is the most important tip in the article, in my experience. When I lived in SF, most of my friend hangs were 1-on-1 catchups over coffee or lunch. Schedul…

"...things played out exactly as described by the article -- some of them hit it off, became friends with each other, and started initiating invites and events without me"

Is that a good thing?

Re: Making friends as an adult is hard (2021)

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post #4

> "Researchers also find that when we develop groups, our friendships are more sustainable than they are with individuals. Because there's multiple touch points now, right? Someone else in the group could reach out to all of us, and then we all keep in touch." This is the most important tip in the article, in my experience. When I lived in SF, most of my friend hangs were 1-on-1 catchups over coffee or lunch. Schedul…

"...things played out exactly as described by the article -- some of them hit it off, became friends with each other, and started initiating invites and events without me" Is that a good thing?

Unless you are planning to be the middleman and change a fee, yes.

Re: Making friends as an adult is hard (2021)

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Same sentiment exactly. Not to sound rude, but I don't -want- more friends, and it feels bad rejecting people who reach out. I already feel like there aren't enough hours in a day, and selfishly want to hoard my time to myself. My wife and I are polar opposites in that regard. She can never seem to have enough friends, and they talk often. I think one big difference is how people are with nothingness. Because no matt…

We introverts have an easy life with ourselves, completely at peace with oneself, never bored. Extroverts dread this, they need external stimulus to feel alive, alone they get bored and depressed quickly. Hand in hand with that go things like imagination, alone you simply have much more time to train it. As I grew up, I realized how stupid and immature it is to try to blend with the rest of the crowd, where extrovert…

> Ie my extroverty boss can't simply go to gym, he has to go with some friend

I would venture to suggest even that your boss can't simply go to the gym because he doesn't actually want to go to the gym. He wants to socialise inside a gym.

Re: Making friends as an adult is hard (2021)

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One thing I found strange about SF is that I never found a group that would do the weekly hang. The weekly hang is a socially porous experience, it has a fixed location and fixed start time but everything else is improvised. Different people could dip in and out, people felt free to bring new friends, people they just started dating, friends from out of town etc. Some people came once and never again, others become r…

I'm intrigued by this, I feel like I know a lot of people but I don't think I know anybody with anything like this. Closest is maybe a weekly book club but that's different. What kind of location -- is this a bar or a park or a brunch spot or something like bowling? How big is the group usually, like 6 or 20? Is it weekend afternoon or weekday evening? And how does it get started, does it just start organically or is…

When I was college-aged, several of my friends would meet at the same pool hall every Saturday night. We'd play pool or sometimes darts and shoot the shit. Usually was only 4-6 people though, but sometimes it'd get up to 10. It never got boring as the pool always kept it interesting, you could always try to get better, and change it up between a few different types of pool (Cut Throat, 8-ball, and 9-ball, mostly).

There was another time when there was a weekly karaoke group I hung out with. Again pretty small, like 4-6 people usually. Always the same place. Seeing who would go up to sing (from other groups besides our own, too) and what songs they'd try kept it interesting.

There's also a Friday night board game group that I've now been a part of for about eight years now, that's had it almost every week. I haven't always been able to go, but I've probably been to probably at least two hundred of them at this point. It used to be more open and would have 6-12 people there regularly, but the guy who hosted it (out of his house) originally got tired of doing it, and when it migrated to another host it whittled down to only 5 core people. But even at the new host's home that's been going for like four years now (without me and another guy for most of 2020-2021 because of the pandemic).

So yeah, having some sort of game or activity it centers around tends to help, at least in my case. Especially something that doesn't require specific people and if people can drop in or out pretty easily (people can arrive late or leave early and no big deal, they can still jump into a game or sign up to sing a song, etc).

Dinners don't work quite as well, imo, because it requires people to arrive pretty much at the same time.

Re: Making friends as an adult is hard (2021)

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> "Researchers also find that when we develop groups, our friendships are more sustainable than they are with individuals. Because there's multiple touch points now, right? Someone else in the group could reach out to all of us, and then we all keep in touch." This is the most important tip in the article, in my experience. When I lived in SF, most of my friend hangs were 1-on-1 catchups over coffee or lunch. Schedul…

You know what they say, 3 is the magic number.

Re: Making friends as an adult is hard (2021)

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One thing I found strange about SF is that I never found a group that would do the weekly hang. The weekly hang is a socially porous experience, it has a fixed location and fixed start time but everything else is improvised. Different people could dip in and out, people felt free to bring new friends, people they just started dating, friends from out of town etc. Some people came once and never again, others become r…

I'm intrigued by this, I feel like I know a lot of people but I don't think I know anybody with anything like this. Closest is maybe a weekly book club but that's different. What kind of location -- is this a bar or a park or a brunch spot or something like bowling? How big is the group usually, like 6 or 20? Is it weekend afternoon or weekday evening? And how does it get started, does it just start organically or is…

In the UK we have this concept of "the local" pub, often where you'd go and meetup with friends for a catchup.

Re: Making friends as an adult is hard (2021)

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One thing I found strange about SF is that I never found a group that would do the weekly hang. The weekly hang is a socially porous experience, it has a fixed location and fixed start time but everything else is improvised. Different people could dip in and out, people felt free to bring new friends, people they just started dating, friends from out of town etc. Some people came once and never again, others become r…

I had in friends in SF that tried, I just couldn't get on board with their concept of fun I wasn't into board game night, I also tried DnD which was ok but what an arduous turn based system and ritual, the weeknight bars were meh (to me), weeknight nightlife was pathetic compared to actual “world class” cities, some of my friends did well in the bouldering scene, there was a time when I was interested in free pizza a…

Sounds a bit too nerdy?

Re: Making friends as an adult is hard (2021)

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I feel like it has more to do with having a surplus of time and resources. When you're in school, you have more time to hang out with people and every interaction isn't tainted by the reality of having to compete over limited resources. As an adult, you are responsible for acquiring your own resources so every relationship is tainted by economic competition. I suspect that rich people have more friends for this reaso…

> aside from the occasional famine At least 50 million people have died due to famines in communist countries. Brushing that aside as "occasional" is intellectually dishonest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_... Same-sex hand-holding isn't possible in capitalist countries? South Korea has the same hand-holding culture: https://www.quora.com/Is-holding-hands-a-big-deal-in-Korea-i...

If you want real intellectual honesty (and not just PR). How many millions have died due to famines caused by globalized capitalism? Just because they die in far-flung lands (e.g. Africa) and not on your doorstep doesn't make it better; it makes it worse IMO. Capitalism is really good at hiding its dirty deeds and covering them up with public relations (PR) narratives to divert attention (PR itself being a euphemism for propaganda), that's why I advocate for small-scale anarcho-capitalism as opposed to global-scale capitalism. The problem with global scale capitalism is that it hides its evils behind layers upon layers of complexity, misdirection and diffused harm; it starts wars to sell weapons, sets up debt traps when it's time to rebuild (enslaving populations of entire countries to servicing foreign debts), it erodes democracies, corrupts politicians, corrupts monetary systems, undermines social contracts, etc...

Communism is not as bad as capitalists claim (relatively speaking). There are pros and cons. Though I think any social system implemented uniformly on a national or, worse, global scale is potentially very dangerous and harmful towards most of its participants.

Adult same-sex hand-holding in capitalist countries generally does not happen outside of sexual relationships.

Re: Making friends as an adult is hard (2021)

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post #4

> "Researchers also find that when we develop groups, our friendships are more sustainable than they are with individuals. Because there's multiple touch points now, right? Someone else in the group could reach out to all of us, and then we all keep in touch." This is the most important tip in the article, in my experience. When I lived in SF, most of my friend hangs were 1-on-1 catchups over coffee or lunch. Schedul…

Groups is an important point I think, preferably based on a common interest. I'm fortunate in that I'm a tabletop gamer, and as it's an inherently social activity I've always been able to find a roleplaying games group or club wherever I've moved.

I'd be interested if there are any other hobbies or interests that have a similar built in social component?

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