You're no longer the customer. You don't pay for the operating system, so you're the product.
Every laptop that you buy has the cost of windows included in it. So yeah you are paying for a premium + being shown ads. Pathetic from windows.
The Windows 11 Trash Party
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#322I'm sometimes still surprised that some people can find reasons to defend even that. Windows is horrible, it started to derail ever since Windows 8 came into the picture. This is an OS that does not respect its user. This is an OS that normalizes hostile software design, and makes it acceptable. This is an OS that spits in its users' faces and the users can do nothing about it. It's partly the user's fault as well. I…
How is this any different than the pre-installed Amazon app on Ubuntu?
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#323There are two Microsofts, as I see it. The one with DevDiv and stuff, which has amazing and mostly free development tools like VS Code, VS 2022, Windows Terminal, WSL, Azure, the .NET ecosystem, the MSVC C++ STL, PowerShell, TypeScript, and so on. And then there's the bean-counting, irritating part of Microsoft that has stuck around since the 90s and doesn't seem to go away. This part justifies adding advertisements…
Linux still can't do high/mixed DPI out of the box?
It does on Wayland. X11 isn't likely to get it because it's EoL.
Currently using it right now on Sway: https://man.archlinux.org/man/sway-output.5.en
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#324It really sucks because there are users who practically must use Windows. People with disabilities aren't considered within FOSS, so are left out in Microsoft's cold embrace. Luckily there's WSL, and I use that quite a bit with Emacs and Emacspeak. But it's nothing like having a full Linux OS with no ads using up CPU cycles and RAM. I can't even see the ads.
I agree accessibility is more ergonomic in Windows, but accessibility concerns aren't universally ignored in FOSS. GNOME and KDE both have accessibility projects which have existed for a little while now.
Is it as polished? I would say no. But if there are shortcomings that impact you, the best way to help is to suggest changes, or write up a pull request yourself (if you are able to with the existing tooling that is).
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#325Oh it's this thread again.
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#326Windows is my daily driver. I actually like the OS but Microsoft would do well to listen to these concerns being raised consistently. They need to ask some deep questions of themselves of what they want Windows to be. This reminds me of the days where Ballmers goal seemed to be to lock everyone into Windows and MS products when the real upside turned out to be “make MS products fully available where people already ar…
Honest question - what do you like about Windows? I used windows from 3.1, NT, 95, 2000 until XP, at which point I switched to Linux for my main OS. Obviously I used all the later versions of Windows too for work, but each version seemed worse and less usable (7 was ok I guess).
For all its faults, Windows is the only operating system that manages to balance practicality, versatility, customizability, and reliability all in one single operating system.
Linux? The fucking thing breaks down if you so much as look at it wrong. No reliability, zilch, nada, /dev/null. I don't trust Linux with anything mission critical, unless I'm paying someone monies to make sure my time isn't wasted (eg: Red Hat, Synology, Steam Deck).
MacOS? Sure, it's practical and kind of reliable, but that's about it. It's not versatile nor customizable. You need to subscribe to the One Apple Way(tm), going off the Way(tm) is a miserable experience. You also really need to fully immerse yourself in the Apple ecosystem to fully use MacOS.
iOS? Android? They are strictly consumption operating systems. They are practical and reliable for consuming content, but that's all they are good (and intended) for.
BSD? No.
So Windows is the only operating system that I can use to do everything I want to do on a computer, in the ways I want to do them, with the software I want, trusting my time will not be wasted on trivially stupid nonsense.
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#327Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I've been daily driving Linux since March 2020 however recently purchased a Valve Index and decided to pop Win 10 on a completely empty secondary M.2. The setup kept failing because it just could not handle the fact that the primary M.2 had a Linux boot loader on it. It just refused to install. That's better than what has happened to me with prior versions of Windows: the Windows installer just deleted the Linux bo…
Even doing it the opposite way around still doesn't work (installing Windows first, and then replacing the Windows bootloader). Every time there is a Windows update that is "major" enough, it will wipe the existing Linux bootloader. I lived like that for about a year, but eventually just gave up and stuck to Windows. I like Linux a lot, but I've found that I save more time using Windows then trying to get Linux to wo…
>I miss being able to see the title of windows in the taskbar...
To be fair, that dumbass trend started with Windows 7.
I just install StartAllBack these days to be done with it (and it fixes the problems that 10's Start Menu has- that search will probably never work again). Yeah, you have to pay for that extension, but you also have to pay if you want window-snapping on macOS- thus they stopped being better, but they haven't really become worse.
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#328I've been daily driving Linux since March 2020 however recently purchased a Valve Index and decided to pop Win 10 on a completely empty secondary M.2. The setup kept failing because it just could not handle the fact that the primary M.2 had a Linux boot loader on it. It just refused to install. My work around was to setup a QEMU VM inside Linux where I provided the VM with the secondary M.2 as the main install drive.…
If "Linux" could ever fix the consistent sound mixer / bluetooth issues, it could really be the de facto OS. I don't know how but across multiple people and distributions sound issues always start surfacing after 2-3 months.
Would recommend trying out PipeWire[0] if you haven't already. I don't know what your sound issues are but I've had no problems since switching ~15 months ago.
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#329The fact that it pops up on mouse over makes it especially irritating
It's a recurring theme though. Noticed yesterday how Amazon Prime switched the "Free to me" button for a "Free with ads" one. Subtle but important change - takes away the users ability to browse a "safe" no sales pitch part of their turf.
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#330Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honest question - what do you like about Windows? I used windows from 3.1, NT, 95, 2000 until XP, at which point I switched to Linux for my main OS. Obviously I used all the later versions of Windows too for work, but each version seemed worse and less usable (7 was ok I guess).
I dont know how to explain it. I’ve used all major OS’s including a couple of flavors of Linux. I just love windows. 11 is pretty awesome for me where I use it on my surface pro 8 and it’s just really nice especially with touch. Touch is definitely a huge part of my workflow too to the point that when I sit at my desktop I sometimes try to touch the screen. There are so many tiny quality of life things like being abl…
Interesting, thanks. Many of those things I'd make the same argument for Linux, I think a lot is simply what you are used to.
I don't use touch in my main OS, but maybe I should consider it!
Wsl does look really useful too (although the one time I tried to use it failed because it didn't support shared memory yet).
EDIT: Backslashes argghhh! Agree strongly here. Would be nice to get away from drive letters too and have a unified file system.