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iOS 17 will reportedly set the stage for sideloading apps on iPhone

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Re: iOS 17 will reportedly set the stage for sideloading apps on iPhone

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And they could close overnight from lack of millions of users. Apple is not required to make it “download file and double click” easy, the best course for action would be making it relatively hard to enable so that no one’s grandma will be able to follow the instructions.

It hasn't killed Fortnite and people just as addicted to fb/insta.

Fortnite has a different audience with different needs.

Re: iOS 17 will reportedly set the stage for sideloading apps on iPhone

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I understand your concern and share some of them. However the solution to overreaching unaccountable private cooperations cannot be to hand all the power to another private unaccountable company. Apple is venturing into advertising and that'll tempt them to weaken privacy protections sooner or later. Additionally their app store rules went far beyond enforcing security and privacy. They gave themselves an advantage a…

> Apple is venturing into advertising It's not the advertising part that is problematic. It's the part where you relentlessly spy on everyone to make selling ads more profitable.

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Re: iOS 17 will reportedly set the stage for sideloading apps on iPhone

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It probably wont succeed, the play store still exists for a reason.

Fortnite seems plenty popular.

Not because of the ability to sideload. Most people want to play it on console or PC.

Re: iOS 17 will reportedly set the stage for sideloading apps on iPhone

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So many "Not good. I want [company I trust] to be free to regulate [company I don't trust]" comments here. Even more odd, its sometimes followed by the even stranger argument "If [company I trust] is legally forced to stop restricting its competitors and has to allow me to choose, I may be lured into choosing [company I don't trust]". Sorry, but all this is closer to religion than common sense.

It’s Apple Stockholm syndrome at it’s finest. But you are apt in your religion comparison. Anything the good lord Jobs, or his prophet Cook says or does is law

If this is Stockholm syndrome then it’s better than any experience I’ve had in a non-hostage situation.

Re: iOS 17 will reportedly set the stage for sideloading apps on iPhone

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I got a beat that they will launch this sounding like they made this decision to improve the user experience. One more thing now we have opened the iPhone so all developers can test their apps without the cumbersome approval process. We call it express deploy and it’s awesome.

Re: iOS 17 will reportedly set the stage for sideloading apps on iPhone

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A lot of these arguments against this sound like long-term prisoners convinced that they can't make it on the outside. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/insti...

Eh, I’ve seen the outside and it belongs on my PC.

Re: iOS 17 will reportedly set the stage for sideloading apps on iPhone

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> at some point i.e. Bentley wants to spend its Marketing money only on people likely to buy a Bentley. So they can run their ads on web pages that are related to luxury goods. It's entirely possible to sell ads without relentlessly spying on everyone. It's just less profitable.

Hence "Yes". Lots of things are "possible", it's just not how things are. We're circling around a straw-man

Yes, for some reason you're pushing the straw man argument that relentlessly spying on everyone, even people who are not your customer at all, is the same thing as having a first party business relationship with your own customer.

Re: iOS 17 will reportedly set the stage for sideloading apps on iPhone

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Many people here are afraid of being able to install apps on iOS from somewhere else than the Apple store because then Facebook will be able to be fully evil on iOS. A relationship without trust and with fear of evil actions is called a toxic relationship. If you don't trust Facebook, don't install it. Even from the app store. There is no world in which you need the app. First, if you use Facebook because of the netw…

Not having WhatsApp at this point is akin to not having a phone at all. I wouldn’t be able to talk to most of my friends/family outside the US.

Re: iOS 17 will reportedly set the stage for sideloading apps on iPhone

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I understand your concern and share some of them. However the solution to overreaching unaccountable private cooperations cannot be to hand all the power to another private unaccountable company. Apple is venturing into advertising and that'll tempt them to weaken privacy protections sooner or later. Additionally their app store rules went far beyond enforcing security and privacy. They gave themselves an advantage a…

> Apple is venturing into advertising It's not the advertising part that is problematic. It's the part where you relentlessly spy on everyone to make selling ads more profitable.

Advertising isn't profitable without spying. It's an arms race with little regulation. If you are not spying, you're ceding ground to those that are.

Re: iOS 17 will reportedly set the stage for sideloading apps on iPhone

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> the free market failed to implement a meaningful competition for central app stores. I don't want every component of my phone OS broken apart and subject to what some legislator or lobbyist thinks is 'competition'. The competition is between Apple and Google making mobile platforms and we already had a choice. I chose Apple's approach after a few years with Google. I miss the headphone jack, but having no tacky tra…

>but having no tacky tracky shit shovelled throughout the OS Like ads for icloud services in settings? Apple TV and Music subscription promotions appearing above all other the settings links? Personalized tracking being enabled by default?

Have you ever used a Samsung Galaxy device in comparison? I’m being upsold on their bloatware left and right and third party services. I hate Samsung and Android now with a passion because they don’t respect my settings and often install random system settings that contradict my choices.

iOS is a breath of fresh air in comparison and does none of this. I say this as a diehard Android G1/Nexus fanboy from way back before it became obvious to me that Google apps are basically spyware for the surveillance capitalism machine.

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