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I have mixed feelings about this. I'm exactly the type of person who used to jailbreak my iPhone to run Cydia, and I used to build my own custom Android ROMs and spend hours on XDA-Developers before that. Now though, I appreciate how locked down iPhones are, and I keep it as locked down via Apple Configurator as possible, because the mobile web and mobile application space are fraught with peril. The vast majority of…
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User count, yes. Expected value per user, and amount spent per user on software and computer services is far lower for Android, even if we only look at the US. That, combined with the relative ease of supporting a couple iOS versions on a handful of devices versus a whole universe of Android OS-device combos, is why a lot of apps go iOS-first if they're not doing dual-platform from day 1. The benefit for most monetiz…
>amount spent per user on software and computer services is far lower for Android But why does that matter in this context
Many people here are afraid of being able to install apps on iOS from somewhere else than the Apple store because then Facebook will be able to be fully evil on iOS. A relationship without trust and with fear of evil actions is called a toxic relationship. If you don't trust Facebook, don't install it. Even from the app store. There is no world in which you need the app. First, if you use Facebook because of the netw…
For most of the world outside US/Canada, WhatsApp is as mandatory as SMS or Phone Calls.
I have resisted installing it from the start. Of course I felt some pressure about this. People never built the expectation I had WhatsApp. I never stopped advocating against it (in a nice way, without blaming people). Now, more and more people have been installing Signal and now I can have group discussions again.
We are many who don't like Facebook. If enough of us resist, WhatsApp will stop being so pervasive and "mandatory".
It has happened in my social circles. There's no drawback anymore for me to not having WhatsApp. When there was, I still had a fulfilling social life, with as many friends, or even more, than average. I was still invited to events, I was still able to organize events, etc.
If people like you, they'll reach you. Having WhatsApp is just convenient, not a determining factor.
Most people now understand that privacy is an important topic and will cope with you not having WhatsApp, or even embrace your action.
The world needs you to become better. Of course it's not easy. But it's not inevitable.
Again, WhatsApp might (still) be mandatory to you today. Okay! You are stuck with it for now. Fine. I understand. But do something about it! Advocate for something else! You can do it gently without pissing people off (which would be the best way to fail convincing them anyway)
If nobody does anything about it, we are stuck with Meta.
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Apple (and Google) blocks all sorts of apps from their stores that even though legal in nature are not allowed for some arbitrary reason that helps their bottomline. E.g. things like gambling, crypto, adult etc are all blocked. On Android you have the choice to side load them on iOS you can't. For this reason alone allowing sideloading will be a generally good thing. For the average user there will be zero impact and…
How does blocking gambling, crypto, and adult content help their bottom line? Seems to me like these would be a lucrative source of income if they allowed them on the store. The risk to the average user is that an app they want is removed from the App Store and only available via sideloaidng.
Did not expect to see Donald Fagen in the headline screenshot
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Perhaps, but what I was emphasizing was that on iPhone such apps will likely not come pre-installed; neither by Apple (vs e.g. Samsung) nor by a carrier because I seriously doubt Apple would allow that. Instead, what Apple is doing is finding a new balance that appease those who are attacking the legitimacy of the App Store (and its toll booth) while in practice the vast majority of iPhone users will retain their pri…
> Perhaps, but what I was emphasizing was that on iPhone such apps will likely not come pre-installed; neither by Apple (vs e.g. Samsung) nor by a carrier because I seriously doubt Apple would allow that. If Facebook is willing to pay to have their app preinstalled, unremovable, and granted root permissions on Android, why in the world wouldn't they be willing to force users to sideload their app on iOS?
Otherwise I think you may be confused on what sideloading is.
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User count, yes. Expected value per user, and amount spent per user on software and computer services is far lower for Android, even if we only look at the US. That, combined with the relative ease of supporting a couple iOS versions on a handful of devices versus a whole universe of Android OS-device combos, is why a lot of apps go iOS-first if they're not doing dual-platform from day 1. The benefit for most monetiz…
>amount spent per user on software and computer services is far lower for Android But why does that matter in this context
That, combined with the App Store restricting spying more than the Play Store does, is why we can't necessarily expect the iOS ecosystem to behave the same way as Android's, were iOS to get similar side-loading capabilities. A common argument goes that nothing will change on iOS, because it hasn't on Android, but the two markets are different enough that I don't find that a strong argument. Maybe it'll turn out to be right, but I don't think it's as much a slam-dunk argument as those advancing it seem to think it is.
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It's a talking point. I'm sorry that it is negative and it might not fair to the parent commenter, but it's obvious bs. It is a propaganda point that was placed somehow into the discussion and gets repeated again and again. In no world does it make any sense that an app like FB would not try to be in every big store, but here we are, having that "concern" repeated under every Apple sideloading discussion. Propaganda…
I wouldn’t call it propaganda. Facebook’s reputation in this regard hasn’t exactly been stellar because they’ve been caught red-handed spying on users at scale [1] [2]. And Apple was swift to limit the damage of their spying by banning [1] their app from the app store which is why the point the gp is making is sound. The app store is two things: a (heavy-handed) review process and a marketplace. Without the Apple app…
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What exactly are those restrictions? Ios has a good sandbox model which is responsible for security.
They don't speak of the security model. But the compliance model, ie. "you can't block the entire app until the user enables precise 'always' location tracking". But in terms of security, every jailbreak since ~iOS 8 besides checkm8 has been via a third-party app breaking out of the sandbox. The ramifications for shipping an exploit chain like this via the built-in app store is going to be extreme (possibly being bla…