With AI search, you won't have to go to the referenced page to read the content, which will kill the display ad business. How's google going to get around that?
Bing embeds ads, so no problem there.
Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine
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Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine
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> Also on a total sidenote, if you told me 5 years ago that Bing would be a serious threat to Google I would have a laughed. If you had told me 3 months ago that Bing would be a serious threat to Google, I still would have laughed. That's how much impact the ChatGPT integration had for Bing -- overnight.
I was not at all surprised, to be honest. ChatGPT took over about 90-95% of my what I would previously resort to Google. Since Microsoft was dealing cards at OpenAI, it was just a matter of time...
How do you manage the hallucination problems, or do you not seem to be having them?
I’m blown away by the competence of the language model but its willingness to make up facts makes me leary.
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Just the payment to Apple would be significantly more than their 2022 search revenue. I wouldn't be shocked but it would be a pretty big gamble.
The gamble didn't work out well the last time someone tried it, which was Yahoo buying the default search on Firefox.
That’s more because it was a bet on the wrong horse. If you know how to install Firefox you probably know what search engine you are using and how to switch the default search engine.
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DDG uses Bing under the hood
>DDG uses Bing under the hood Bing is just one of many sources DuckDuckGo utilizes https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/so...
> When people search, we believe they’re really looking for answers, as opposed to just links
I believe this as well for most people and most searches. I, however, am not most people. The vast majority of the time I want a link to sites that have what I am looking for. This is my biggest gripe with search engines and has been for a very long time. I used to be really good at finding pages I wanted by punching in the right words in the search. At some point in the mid 00's Google changed everything and I have failed to adapt fully.
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As someone that works at an IT company, not a software company, Almost every customer that started with google is switching to o365. Nearly 99% of our clients are on o365 or are switching from on-prem exchange to o365. I can see maybe the bubble of silicon valley might be more oriented toward google, but the vast majority of businesses continue to migrate to o365.
O365 is really starting to get tons of traction even with the mid-sized companies.
M365 the far superior solution to many business problems. As a long-time paying gmail customer I'm also moving away. It looks like Google didn't improve UI in their admin menus for at least a decade.
Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine
#246As an advertiser, it occurs to me that google severely dropped the ball. I've been waiting to hand them money, but they refuse to be sufficiently organized to onboard new, non-megacorp advertisers. At first glance that makes sense: prioritize onboarding large businesses with large budgets. With a second thought, this approach seems foolish: their ad network is an ecosystem, and the X00,000 businesses like mine that a…
Don't hand them money. Ads only makes sense for companies with money to burn (mega corps)
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That's a stripped down OS running only a web browser and a bunch of webapps, not a real OS. Another one of those Google fantasies that failed to understand normal people.
What do you think Joe Sixpack runs on his computer these days? There are tons of people out there who do nothing but browse websites and use the "apps" as provided on those sites. They have no use for native Windows apps nor all the extra baggage that comes with it.
That's a stupid over-generalization. There's always one shitty app you need for some weird use case which is not in the official stores. And to rule that out 100% by purchasing a chromebook is a hassle people don't want to worry about.
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That might be true in concept, but I don't think it's true in reality. When people search for something online, they want the first result to be whatever they had in mind. If I search for Python, I want the homepage for the programming language. When somebody else searches for Python, they might be looking to learn about the animal. You could argue that we should just ask for exactly what we want, but that puts more…
People are different, I get it, but I don't want a search engine that tries to second guess me all the time. If I'm a programmer and I'm interested in the actual animal, I don't want to have to fight against the product. I'd much rather use my knowledge to craft my queries intelligently so that I get exactly what I want. But then when it comes to technology, I'm a bit of a control freak.
What you mean is that you don't want a search engine that guesses wrong.
If you happen to get a search engine that is correctly giving you the right result every time because it happens to know what you want, I am guessing you will not have a problem with that.
Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine
#249Maybe an unpopular opinion but it feels like Google is near useless anymore. Between results containing outdated or broken links to empty discussions, and ads being their main priority as well as "fuzzy search results" where you can search for one thing and get something completely unrelated because Google decided you also meant to search for something else that is possibly contextually adjacent, I can't really get g…
> Sure ChatGPT can hallucinate but Google's results rely on some random person somewhere to have properly answered something.
i don't know about your experience with chatgpt, but to me it's been untrustworthy. so much so that every answer i get needs to be double checked against google and that "random person".
Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine
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> Also on a total sidenote, if you told me 5 years ago that Bing would be a serious threat to Google I would have a laughed. If you had told me 3 months ago that Bing would be a serious threat to Google, I still would have laughed. That's how much impact the ChatGPT integration had for Bing -- overnight.
I was not at all surprised, to be honest. ChatGPT took over about 90-95% of my what I would previously resort to Google. Since Microsoft was dealing cards at OpenAI, it was just a matter of time...
How are you dealing with it just manufacturing answers it does not readily have? Or is that pretty much the same as SEO spam and easy to filter out?