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Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by cosmojg »

Tactician_mark wrote: post #35
pelagicAustral wrote: post #11

I've been using Bing for a few weeks now it is not all the way there yet but so far the experience is more gratifying than Google. The results seem to be better and there is less ads on top the search results. Their AI integration is also well accomplished. No complains there...

I'd use Bing's chat feature if it wasn't only available on Edge... I can't seem to get any Chromium browsers working well on my Fedora install. I already want to use Microsoft's search engine, why do they need me to use their browser too?

There are addons/extensions for that!

Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bing-chat-for...

Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bing-chat-for-all-...

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by unloco »

Zigurd wrote: post #47
simula67 wrote: post #21

I always thought that Google made a big blunder by not encroaching upon Microsoft's turf more aggressively. They should have tried to make a better desktop OS (just buy Canonical or something) and then eat into Microsoft Office market share by releasing Google Office for Desktop. Wait for an opportunity to emerge and then pounce. This is precisely what Microsoft did to Google. They had Bing running in the background…

Desktop market share moves very slowly. A 1% shift per year is a big move last I looked. ChromeOS is doing about as well as possible gaining share.

ChromeOS is only in the market because they have cheap laptops that schools bought up. And not a single student I know would ever use one outside of school.

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by zdragnar »

shever73 wrote: post #33

This is hardly surprising. I never normally use Google, but was asked to check some SEO using Google search the other day. The results were a dumpster fire of sponsored content, “other people also search for” and stuff that was largely irrelevant. I had to go onto the second and third pages to find anything even remotely close to what I wanted.

It must depend heavily on what you are searching for. There are a lot of things I dislike about Google, but their search results are consistently better than Bing in my experience.

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by dougmwne »

From my use of Bard, I think it’s main issue is poor alignment due to lack of RLHF dataset. Open AI has been curating its data set for years as it aggressively pushed to productization. Google never cared about getting its models into the hands of the public so is having to scramble. I think Google will catch up eventually, but not before doing major damage to its market share and partnerships.

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by pelagicAustral »

Tactician_mark wrote: post #35
pelagicAustral wrote: post #11

I've been using Bing for a few weeks now it is not all the way there yet but so far the experience is more gratifying than Google. The results seem to be better and there is less ads on top the search results. Their AI integration is also well accomplished. No complains there...

I'd use Bing's chat feature if it wasn't only available on Edge... I can't seem to get any Chromium browsers working well on my Fedora install. I already want to use Microsoft's search engine, why do they need me to use their browser too?

Didn't realized that. My currently employer is MS-stack based so I have been working with Edge and to be fair, this was also surprising. I would probably rather work with Firefox but the browser is not that intrusive and provide the same level of support and tooling I get with FF. I think one the reasons I decided to stick with Edge these last few weeks is the extremely poor support I get when working with the SharePoint implementations that are for internal use, seems to be a issue with the way FF interacts with Windows Authentication.

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by mgkimsal »

mattw2121 wrote: post #40
lightbendover wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The last thing anyone should ever want from a search engine is different results from the next person over.

I strongly disagree. I would love for a search engine to, intelligently, cater the results based on my previous search history and patterns.

I would love for that ability to be easily determined visually, and easily toggled on/off. A big "personalized" and "generic" toggle switch at the top would be useful.

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by oldgradstudent »

nus07 wrote: post #53
tapoxi wrote: post #3

What's Sundar's goal for Google? They seem to be aimless since he took the helm.

Sundar is a McKinsey consultant who is very pleasant and agreeable and can keep a boat steady while maximizing shareholder return. Unfortunately there isn’t much innovation happening . Google needs a Larry Page or Musk like character back at the helm.

> while maximizing shareholder return.

That's not maximizing shareholder return.

That's locally maximizing shareholder return.

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by Arnt »

lightbendover wrote: post #23
roenxi wrote: post #6

1) "It will reportedly be known as Project ‘Magi’ and is said to provide a far more personalized experience than the company’s current service." That is super creepy. Google knows a lot about you, and now it is using that knowledge to really put you in a filter bubble. Imagine this plus engagement metrics. 2) So much for that monopoly a lot of people thought Google had. Turns out they're still as exposed to market pr…

The last thing anyone should ever want from a search engine is different results from the next person over.

The next person over cares about sports and boobies. By which I mean spectator sports and, uhm, spectator boobies.

Is the last thing I'd want really results different from my neighbour?

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