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Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by daydream »

traveler01 wrote: post #127

Google constant failure astonish me. How a company with so much money, so many wonderful engineers can't produce a source of income other than the search engine? I kept reading news about Google's AI programs, how the hell was Microsoft with OpenAI that came up with the biggest hit in AI? Also, how does Google want people to use their new services if they keep closing them down after their "failure" (a.k.a Google com…

> How a company with so much money, so many wonderful engineers can't produce a source of income other than the search engine?

It’s like the curse of oil. Google found a revenue stream early on that was so massive it covered up all their other sins. They dealt with their problems belatedly at best.

Now that revenue stream is under attack and they are scrambling. To put it politely.

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by tough »

hrunt wrote: post #135
_fat_santa wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They kinda did that with ChromeOS + Google Docs with offline mode. The problem for Google is that while it was a solid investment for MS to persue cloud services to compete with Google, I don't think it would have been a good investment the other way around. Chrome is really the only desktop product that makes sense for Google because it pushes people into their ecosystem online. Creating something like a standalone…

> Also on a total sidenote, if you told me 5 years ago that Bing would be a serious threat to Google I would have a laughed. If you had told me 3 months ago that Bing would be a serious threat to Google, I still would have laughed. That's how much impact the ChatGPT integration had for Bing -- overnight.

Well that and a 10B investment right?

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by tyingq »

balls187 wrote: post #82
ksec wrote: post #36

This is basically Samsung asking Google to pay up. Google needs to pay Apple / iOS for Default Search Engine, and paying Samsung for staying on Android with Google Search. Basically Google is being squeezed left and right. So the only way to increase revenue or profits to satisfy the money they spend on Apple and Samsung? More Ads on Youtube and Google Search. The more Ads they serve, the worse UX they have. All whil…

I’d bet Microsoft will gladly match all of Google’s offers here.

Probably, though taking the lower offer from Google means no change for end users, and thus probably less risk for Samsung.

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by birdyrooster »

hrunt wrote: post #135
_fat_santa wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They kinda did that with ChromeOS + Google Docs with offline mode. The problem for Google is that while it was a solid investment for MS to persue cloud services to compete with Google, I don't think it would have been a good investment the other way around. Chrome is really the only desktop product that makes sense for Google because it pushes people into their ecosystem online. Creating something like a standalone…

> Also on a total sidenote, if you told me 5 years ago that Bing would be a serious threat to Google I would have a laughed. If you had told me 3 months ago that Bing would be a serious threat to Google, I still would have laughed. That's how much impact the ChatGPT integration had for Bing -- overnight.

I’ve used bing with gpt and it’s way worse than ChatGPT idk what you mean. I’d just as well use Google tbh. It wasn’t impressive.

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by websap »

ant6n wrote: post #86
Arnt wrote: post #70

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The next person over cares about sports and boobies. By which I mean spectator sports and, uhm, spectator boobies. Is the last thing I'd want really results different from my neighbour?

For the same query?

Depends on the query. Fact based queries should have the same answer.

If I'm searching for Python, I'd expect to see more about the programming language than the animal.

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by raxxorraxor »

anonzzzies wrote: post #142
dheera wrote: post #72

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That's a stripped down OS running only a web browser and a bunch of webapps, not a real OS. Another one of those Google fantasies that failed to understand normal people.

Besides gaming people, I know very few people who need more. And gaming with webgl goes pretty far too. I think it works quite well; I don’t like it, or rather, actually hate it; I like optimal software against the hardware, but that is such a niche now. So just running everything in a browser is simply realistic and enough for most of the population. I think it sells quite well as well. I have a Chromebook which was…

Even gen-z still build their own PCs. It isn't as niche as often said. They would laugh in your face with the worst insults a 16 year old teenager can come up with if you offer them a chromebook. They would sell it to their wine-aunt (who happens to not run non-emulator windows emulators on Linux).

Sure, they also play Pokemon Go... although partially because they are not sitting in front of their PCs. Large market by volume, but more so for alternative situations.

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by shostack »

unloco wrote: post #81
pelagicAustral wrote: post #11

I've been using Bing for a few weeks now it is not all the way there yet but so far the experience is more gratifying than Google. The results seem to be better and there is less ads on top the search results. Their AI integration is also well accomplished. No complains there...

except you cant use the AI function without using Edge.. That's a huge complaint from me.

Half the time I enter a prompt it spits back regular search results without any chat response.

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by ceejayoz »

ant6n wrote: post #86
Arnt wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The next person over cares about sports and boobies. By which I mean spectator sports and, uhm, spectator boobies. Is the last thing I'd want really results different from my neighbour?

For the same query?

Yes. I like that Google seems to surface programming results in the language I use. In the case of “boobies”, if I’m a bird expert it might give me info on blue footed boobies first.
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