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Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by ralfd »

detourdog wrote: post #28
king_magic wrote: post #2

I mean it is kind of nuts. I didn't have "pretty much switch entirely to Bing" on my 2023 search Bingo card, but here we are.

My computer literate but non-technical wife just noticed yesterday that google searches are a waste of time compared to ChatGPT. Over the course of about six hours it went from this thing is amazing to this stupid thing knows I'm on a Mac but still refers to F11 keys. She even got ChatGPT to re-enforce she was on Mac and didn't have an F11 key but never got a substitute key to use for Mac users. (F11 is volume down o…

What does F11 do?

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by KyeRussell »

dheera wrote: post #72
esprehn wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't tell if your sarcasm is top notch, but isn't Chromebooks and GSuite (docs, sheets, slides) exactly the thing you describe?

That's a stripped down OS running only a web browser and a bunch of webapps, not a real OS. Another one of those Google fantasies that failed to understand normal people.

Tell that to the scores of kids that have come up not understanding a filesystem because they just…haven’t needed to, in large part because they grew up using Chromebooks, happily.

Stop conflating yourself with a “normal person”. It’s quite clear from your comment that you’re anything but.

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by that_guy_iain »

jonhohle wrote: post #125
that_guy_iain wrote: post #84

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Google docs/etc are totally eating into Microsoft Office's market share. I can't remember the last company I was at where they expected us to use Microsoft office products. But we used Google docs,sheets,etc constantly.

Do you prefer it, or is it simply a cost saving measure? GSuite is substandard even compared to Open Office. The only benefit, and it may be a big one, is real time collaboration and document sharing.

O365 has the same real time collaboration and document sharing. I worked at one company they were originally on Google had to share the enterprise plan by the parent company for “money reasons”. People just kept using Google until the account was closed 12 months after migrating. When I left they were going back to Google.

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by latexr »

SquareWheel wrote: post #91
lightbendover wrote: post #23

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The last thing anyone should ever want from a search engine is different results from the next person over.

That might be true in concept, but I don't think it's true in reality. When people search for something online, they want the first result to be whatever they had in mind. If I search for Python, I want the homepage for the programming language. When somebody else searches for Python, they might be looking to learn about the animal. You could argue that we should just ask for exactly what we want, but that puts more…

> Search engines provide very little personalization even today. I'm almost surprised a competitor hasn't popped up with a product that tries to fill that niche.

Kagi seems to be that.

https://kagi.com

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by LewisVerstappen »

bowsamic wrote: post #49
piyush_soni wrote: post #19

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That's exactly what I think. I personally also find him very uninspiring, it looks like he's basically just 'maintaining' the company on auto-pilot mode. No out of the world new ideas, and now the company is losing on the very field they were seemingly far-far ahead than the rest of the world.

10 years ago, Google was one of the most exciting companies in the world to me, culminating in that amazing Google Chrome comic https://www.scottmccloud.com/googlechrome/ Their products and software seemed genuinely inspiring. Now, it seems to just be maintenance or death. Seemingly happens with all once-loved tech companies to some degree. It's quite sad but I guess time moves on. Totally self-inflicted for them tho…

No stapler for you!

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by darrenf »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #97
pjmlp wrote: post #76

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Laptops are desktops. In regards to ChromeOS, it hardly matters outside the US school system and Googleplex.

For me, one of the things that has stopped me from even trying ChromeOS is that is/meant to be 100% cloud which means no local storage and since I code for a living having things locally is a must for me. It makes 100% sense in Schools and other places where you want to be able to reset the OS constantly and stop people from breaking it. I think for facebook machine's it would do well too but again I think alot of pe…

> For me, one of the things that has stopped me from even trying ChromeOS is that is/meant to be 100% cloud which means no local storage

I've had a Pixelbook for 4.5 years -- a Google product, so arguably as it's "meant to be" -- and it has 128GB of local storage, and I believe you can get them with up to 512GB. Coding locally using Linux VMs/containers is actually pretty pleasant IME (albeit I don't do frontend work).

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by KyeRussell »

gspencley wrote: post #88
seydor wrote: post #42

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google still owns android

Most of Android is licensed under the Apache 2.0 license. So while the word "owns" is true in a technical legal sense, there is nothing to prevent anyone from forking it and doing their own thing. Unlike with GPL code, they don't even need to license their changes under the same license as long as they abide the terms with respects to the original. Personally I use GrapheneOS in order to "de-Google" without switching…

This doesn’t change anything about the comment that you’re replying to.

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by bookofjoe »

_fat_santa wrote: post #130
simula67 wrote: post #21

I always thought that Google made a big blunder by not encroaching upon Microsoft's turf more aggressively. They should have tried to make a better desktop OS (just buy Canonical or something) and then eat into Microsoft Office market share by releasing Google Office for Desktop. Wait for an opportunity to emerge and then pounce. This is precisely what Microsoft did to Google. They had Bing running in the background…

They kinda did that with ChromeOS + Google Docs with offline mode. The problem for Google is that while it was a solid investment for MS to persue cloud services to compete with Google, I don't think it would have been a good investment the other way around. Chrome is really the only desktop product that makes sense for Google because it pushes people into their ecosystem online. Creating something like a standalone…

Or that someday Apple would be the most valuable company in the world

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by [deleted] »

_fat_santa wrote: post #130
simula67 wrote: post #21

I always thought that Google made a big blunder by not encroaching upon Microsoft's turf more aggressively. They should have tried to make a better desktop OS (just buy Canonical or something) and then eat into Microsoft Office market share by releasing Google Office for Desktop. Wait for an opportunity to emerge and then pounce. This is precisely what Microsoft did to Google. They had Bing running in the background…

They kinda did that with ChromeOS + Google Docs with offline mode. The problem for Google is that while it was a solid investment for MS to persue cloud services to compete with Google, I don't think it would have been a good investment the other way around. Chrome is really the only desktop product that makes sense for Google because it pushes people into their ecosystem online. Creating something like a standalone…

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