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Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by dboreham »

rob74 wrote: post #105
garganzol wrote: post #44

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> better desktop OS > Google It wouldn't be an OS, it would be a casino full of flashy ads. The worst company for anything business critical. Ads - yes, email - ok, anything else - never. They get away with Android because it's mostly a consumer market.

Did you use Windows recently? https://uk.pcmag.com/migrated-3765-windows-10/132748/how-to-...

Was about to post the same thing. Windows is infuriating for me not because I dislike ads per se, but it triggers all sorts of ADD behavior in my brain -- try to open an application, and "ohh, what's Tom Cruise up to today?!".

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by abudabi123 »

With the aim of making premium margins from hw/sw products better than Apple without Microsoft, the partnership of Google, Mercedes-Benz, Sony could go far with top cover and Nintendo's superpower patience and as a key point of difference promise to re-supply parts without short fast fashion half lives. I fail to understand how Microsoft gets away with huge market monopoly without correction from parliamentarians confining them to one third or two of industry dominance.

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Post by michaelcampbell »

Tactician_mark wrote: post #35
pelagicAustral wrote: post #11

I've been using Bing for a few weeks now it is not all the way there yet but so far the experience is more gratifying than Google. The results seem to be better and there is less ads on top the search results. Their AI integration is also well accomplished. No complains there...

I'd use Bing's chat feature if it wasn't only available on Edge... I can't seem to get any Chromium browsers working well on my Fedora install. I already want to use Microsoft's search engine, why do they need me to use their browser too?

There's a plugin for both chrome and firefox that allow chat to work within.

They both work for me at least on MacOS and Windows; haven't tried any linux distos yet, but worth a look.

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by jonhohle »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #84
gaogao wrote: post #50

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Where do you see ChromeOS and Google Office as falling flat in that regard? Desktops are pretty smaller in market size compared to laptops these days.

Google docs/etc are totally eating into Microsoft Office's market share. I can't remember the last company I was at where they expected us to use Microsoft office products. But we used Google docs,sheets,etc constantly.

Do you prefer it, or is it simply a cost saving measure? GSuite is substandard even compared to Open Office.

The only benefit, and it may be a big one, is real time collaboration and document sharing.

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Post by neffy »

HelloNurse wrote: post #96
lightbendover wrote: post #23

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The last thing anyone should ever want from a search engine is different results from the next person over.

Not "anyone": only mature searchers that worry about privacy, filter bubbles and artificially buried/censored good results. Advertisement buyers, on the other hand, benefit greatly from carefully controlling who sees their ads. For example, child care related products for female teenagers that are one year too old for their school class, or lawyers for young adult males from bad neighborhoods; I'm sure everyone can t…

For the unsuspecting computer nerd, a search for latex back at the dawn of search technology was briefly something that could truly open the unprepared mind to unsuspected vistas.

Boy did that one get fixed fast.

But let us spare a moment of thought for the subsequent searchers for interesting items of latex clothing, and how they felt about being exposed to interminable details about an obscure word processing system.

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by traveler01 »

Google constant failure astonish me. How a company with so much money, so many wonderful engineers can't produce a source of income other than the search engine? I kept reading news about Google's AI programs, how the hell was Microsoft with OpenAI that came up with the biggest hit in AI?

Also, how does Google want people to use their new services if they keep closing them down after their "failure" (a.k.a Google completely forgeting about them and proceeding to close them down).

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by illnewsthat »

simula67 wrote: post #21

I always thought that Google made a big blunder by not encroaching upon Microsoft's turf more aggressively. They should have tried to make a better desktop OS (just buy Canonical or something) and then eat into Microsoft Office market share by releasing Google Office for Desktop. Wait for an opportunity to emerge and then pounce. This is precisely what Microsoft did to Google. They had Bing running in the background…

> They had Bing running in the background for years losing truckloads of money.

Maybe a nitpick, but I think Bing has been profitable on its own for a while now.

(2015) https://time.com/4084975/microsoft-bing-search-engine-profit...

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by adithyassekhar »

dougmwne wrote: post #73
seydor wrote: post #42

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google still owns android

An extremely second rate phone platform compared to iOS where the customers don’t spend nearly as much money and they have minimal control over their hardware partners.

Then linux should be a second rate platform since no one spend enough money and there is zero control over what it runs on.

Android is also technically more advanced than anything Apple in pure versatility and user control. Apple execs might get nightmares if someone suggested giving more control to their user. I can stay in the walled garden or play outside with naughty apps and emulators. Android's safety model is not based on restricting what the user can do. Security by obscurity is the least one can do.

I understand everyone has a phone choice and some people prefer their phone less sophisticated or less feature rich or more basic.

But just because you prefer something so reduced in functionality that it's a waste of the incredible silicon powering it does not mean you can belittle something far more capable. Especially in a developer oriented website.

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Post by _fat_santa »

simula67 wrote: post #21

I always thought that Google made a big blunder by not encroaching upon Microsoft's turf more aggressively. They should have tried to make a better desktop OS (just buy Canonical or something) and then eat into Microsoft Office market share by releasing Google Office for Desktop. Wait for an opportunity to emerge and then pounce. This is precisely what Microsoft did to Google. They had Bing running in the background…

They kinda did that with ChromeOS + Google Docs with offline mode. The problem for Google is that while it was a solid investment for MS to persue cloud services to compete with Google, I don't think it would have been a good investment the other way around. Chrome is really the only desktop product that makes sense for Google because it pushes people into their ecosystem online. Creating something like a standalone OS or a standalone office software would have gone in the "wrong direction" for Google, taking people off their site rather than taking people there.

Also on a total sidenote, if you told me 5 years ago that Bing would be a serious threat to Google I would have a laughed.

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