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Re: I liked this simple calculus exercise

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This reminds me of an exercise I'll never forget from my Math Methods course: finding the derivative of arcsin(x). It seems almost impossible because, just looking at it, there seems to be nothing you can do to simplify it. Then, out of sheer nothing-else-to-do-ism, you take the sin() of it and realize sin(arcsin(x)) = x. Take the derivative of both sides, apply chain rule and draw a right triangle and you have the a…

This is a great example. Thanks very much!

Re: I liked this simple calculus exercise

#92

Here's another exercise (resp. exam question) that tests understanding: given a sketch of a curve in a graph, roughly sketch the derivative (or integral). The number of otherwise good students who go "but I can't do the derivative without the formula?" suggests we need more questions like this.

Also a good question to test intuition is being asked to sketch e^sin(x) and sin(e^x).

I really enjoy https://graphtoy.com/ by the great Inigo Quilez to quickly verify my mental models for mathematical equations

Re: I liked this simple calculus exercise

#93

Slightly off-topic: didn't know what ⌊x/2⌋ is Google: x squared (???) GPT: The expression ⌊x/2⌋ represents the greatest integer that is less than or equal to x/2. It is called the floor function of x/2. For example, if x=5, then ⌊x/2⌋ = ⌊5/2⌋ = 2. If x is an even integer, then ⌊x/2⌋ = x/2. If x is an odd integer, then ⌊x/2⌋ = (x-1)/2.

Sorry about this. I added an explanation to the article.

Re: I liked this simple calculus exercise

#94

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I would classify a trick as something that happens to work but isn't rigorous. Like treating dy/dx as a fraction sometimes works, but only under certain conditions.

What's your favourite example of where it doesn't work? Physics is full of quasi-infinistesimal quantities and I always like good counter examples (ideally without invoking something like the blamange function or similar....)

Somewhat silly example: given a plane in 3 dimensions defined by x+y+z=1, we have ∂x/∂y * ∂y/∂z * ∂z/∂x = -1.

Re: I liked this simple calculus exercise

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With that said, does anyone know of a good method to relearn math efficiently? I found it to be really hard to self-learn any math topic, most books repeat everything from the basics at the beginning like what a set is, and then suddenly turn into ultra-advanced with “the proof is trivial” all around.

I think this experience is typical of self teaching from a math textbook. It's extremely difficult to find a good book that leaves no gaps while simultaneously explaining everything that might be difficult to understand. The key thing when encountering this for me is to expand my horizons and begin looking for videos or other supplementary materials. A teacher would show you the proof, or at least help you along the…

This is a great comment. To add on to a point that really aligns with my experiences:

> "Review from time to time but don't let a hard first couple chapters prevent you from ever learning the concepts."

This is a very good approach, and I wish I started doing this earlier. Even in my university math courses, the professors sometimes skipped ahead to have students focus on a few later chapters before coming back, or told the class to skip several pages in the book. I also found that working on later exercises in a textbook would sometimes help me better understand concepts introduced in earlier chapters.

Lastly—though this may not be completely relevant to studying mathematics—I've explicitly been taught in various language courses (explicitly for audio courses and implicitly for in-person university courses) that it's okay to move ahead if I know at least 80% of the material. The percentage may be higher for studying math topics, but especially for someone self-learning out of interest or for a specific application, it's much more preferable to move forward and revisit earlier exercises as needed, instead of quit the book. If you find yourself getting lost in later chapters, there is no problem with revisiting earlier chapters. You'd also likely be no worse off (possibly even better) than many undergraduates studying the textbook for a course for the first time.

The most important thing is just to not quit the habit of consistent study. Perfectionism in understanding is a pitfall for self-directed studies, which consistency in studying beats every time.

Re: I liked this simple calculus exercise

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post #56

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With that said, does anyone know of a good method to relearn math efficiently? I found it to be really hard to self-learn any math topic, most books repeat everything from the basics at the beginning like what a set is, and then suddenly turn into ultra-advanced with “the proof is trivial” all around.

I think this experience is typical of self teaching from a math textbook. It's extremely difficult to find a good book that leaves no gaps while simultaneously explaining everything that might be difficult to understand. The key thing when encountering this for me is to expand my horizons and begin looking for videos or other supplementary materials. A teacher would show you the proof, or at least help you along the…

Thanks! My only gripe is that I just don’t know a logical order to follow through with math.. this is somehow less of a problem in other subjects.

That said, I have been long thinking about a dependency graph for knowledge, where the nodes are great books on the topic.

Re: I liked this simple calculus exercise

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Also a good question to test intuition is being asked to sketch e^sin(x) and sin(e^x).

TCL, package require math, a few lines of puts writting to a file and then gnuplot that.

How does that test intuition?

Re: I liked this simple calculus exercise

#98
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Also a good question to test intuition is being asked to sketch e^sin(x) and sin(e^x).

Seems a little much for a regular calculus class. Wouldn't that fit better in a complex analysis class?

No, this would be a good exercise for first-year calculus. It's a very reasonable question, nothing out of the ordinary.

Re: I liked this simple calculus exercise

#99
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Also a good question to test intuition is being asked to sketch e^sin(x) and sin(e^x).

I really enjoy https://graphtoy.com/ by the great Inigo Quilez to quickly verify my mental models for mathematical equations

Thank you for sharing that! I usually go with Desmos, but for a quick plot this seems even nicer, especially given the time coordinate!

Re: I liked this simple calculus exercise

#100

Current Calc 2 student here. I would be braindead approaching this problem honestly, I don't think I'd even know how to begin; I'm hoping that's normal. Why would the exponent be equal to x/2 - floor(x/2) be equal to x/2 on the interval [0, 2)? And how does the graph of x/2 - floor(x/2) imply anything about the behavior of e^(x/2 - floor(x/2))? I'm hoping I just haven't learned enough yet?

> I'm hoping that's normal

The vast majority of people on the planet do not know calculus and will never need to, so yes it is completely normal

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