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'Algebra for none' fails in San Francisco

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Re: 'Algebra for none' fails in San Francisco

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I live in Seattle, not San Francisco, but we have some similar issues with our schools. I'd really prefer to send my son to our local public schools, but if they aren't challenging him appropriately then my wife and I obviously aren't going to just give up on his education. We'll either pay for extracurricular enrichment like the person in this article, move to a wealthy suburb, or send him to a private school instea…

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Re: 'Algebra for none' fails in San Francisco

#182

I live in Seattle, not San Francisco, but we have some similar issues with our schools. I'd really prefer to send my son to our local public schools, but if they aren't challenging him appropriately then my wife and I obviously aren't going to just give up on his education. We'll either pay for extracurricular enrichment like the person in this article, move to a wealthy suburb, or send him to a private school instea…

> I live in Seattle Luckily, everyone in the area gets access to Running Start[1]. Doesn't address the earlier years of schooling, though. If your children are in HS, I'd really recommend sitting downing with a HS councilor to make sure that your kids take the classes that are required by the district for HS, but aren't required for a college degree (I'm thinking of speech here, but there may be others) in the first…

I did this in HS decades ago and had to fight guidance counselors to get it done. Fortunately, it's much easier now. I cannot recommend this program highly enough.

Re: 'Algebra for none' fails in San Francisco

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post #132

I live in Seattle, not San Francisco, but we have some similar issues with our schools. I'd really prefer to send my son to our local public schools, but if they aren't challenging him appropriately then my wife and I obviously aren't going to just give up on his education. We'll either pay for extracurricular enrichment like the person in this article, move to a wealthy suburb, or send him to a private school instea…

And the kids who's families can't afford to move/go to private school pay for the rich family's idealism.

The rich families are not the problem here. The public schools with the tyranny of low expectations are the issue.

Re: 'Algebra for none' fails in San Francisco

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Growing up in San Diego the accelerated cohort did algebra in grade 7. Some of us who were passionate took math over the summer and got even further ahead. It’s a little surprising to see in this day and age when things should move faster that algebra is delayed to grade 9.

Re: 'Algebra for none' fails in San Francisco

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> So anyway the point is Berkeley has always done math the "reform" way and its math outcomes are much better in every respect. If Berkeley's system prevents everyone from taking calculus before 12th grade, it's not getting even halfway decent results. If they're better than the results in San Francisco, all you can learn from that is that Berkeley has extreme problems with student quality, and quality is even lower…

> If Berkeley's system prevents everyone from taking calculus before 12th grade High school in the US ends at 12th grade -- how do they teach physics without calculus?

Physics in many high school programs is taught without it and just uses algebra-based methods.

Re: 'Algebra for none' fails in San Francisco

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> That didn't happen, concludes a study by a team of Stanford professors. "Large ethnoracial gaps in advanced math course-taking . . . did not change." Is there anything that will get these people to realize that maybe they are working with a hypothesis that is fundamentally flawed? It doesn't take a large amount of thinking to imagine what might have more predictive power in explaining what's going on here.

It’s like getting Soviet biologists to reconsider Lysenkoism. A good way to end your career.

Re: 'Algebra for none' fails in San Francisco

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen this link elsewhere but I get a pay wall.

Found this archive link of the article on Reddit: https://archive.md/a2S4q

Thank you. This certainly adds considerable nuance to what I naively took to be a cut-and-dried situation.

Re: 'Algebra for none' fails in San Francisco

#190

I live in Seattle, not San Francisco, but we have some similar issues with our schools. I'd really prefer to send my son to our local public schools, but if they aren't challenging him appropriately then my wife and I obviously aren't going to just give up on his education. We'll either pay for extracurricular enrichment like the person in this article, move to a wealthy suburb, or send him to a private school instea…

in what universe sacrificing child’s education (even if the child is from wealthy family) leads to some greater good. It is a lose-lose proposition for everyone.
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