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'Algebra for none' fails in San Francisco

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Re: 'Algebra for none' fails in San Francisco

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It sounds like they tried to set up a large one-size-fits-all program.

This might be a good time to bring up Lockhart's Lament, which imagines what artistic education would look like if we treated it like math.

https://archive.org/details/AMathematiciansLament

Nobody with decision-making power in a school district likes the answer which this paper proposes: very small class sizes.

Re: 'Algebra for none' fails in San Francisco

#12
Has any child ever gotten better at something they don't have to do? It seems the practical effect will be to simply place these children farther behind and never catching up.

SFUSD does not appear to be run by intelligent people, however. I don't say that as some Internet slur. I mean that as a descriptive term. Should you disagree, it is worth watching this 2 min video of a meeting from one of their committees https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdekUXyAAzI

Re: 'Algebra for none' fails in San Francisco

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post #9

When it comes to politics, San Francisco is the world capital of learned helplessness. London Breed et al. are the problem solving equivalent of giving up.

And racism of low expectations.

They are like the annoying lady in Stand and Deliver that suggested that math should not be taught to not hurt the self esteem of students.

Re: 'Algebra for none' fails in San Francisco

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math is just the beginning of these backwards policies. public schools in california have been removing advanced classes in the name of “equity” for years. the racial enrollment in those classes did not reflect the racial enrollment of the school.

the result? parents moving kids to private school. at the school nearest me they kindergarten enrollment is dropping. they are likely going to only have a a single class in a couple years

california is making it very clear the public school system is not going to help your children succeed beyond a base level. it seems to have the completely opposite goals of when i was in public school in california

Re: 'Algebra for none' fails in San Francisco

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> That didn't happen, concludes a study by a team of Stanford professors. "Large ethnoracial gaps in advanced math course-taking . . . did not change."

Is there anything that will get these people to realize that maybe they are working with a hypothesis that is fundamentally flawed?

It doesn't take a large amount of thinking to imagine what might have more predictive power in explaining what's going on here.

Re: 'Algebra for none' fails in San Francisco

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math is just the beginning of these backwards policies. public schools in california have been removing advanced classes in the name of “equity” for years. the racial enrollment in those classes did not reflect the racial enrollment of the school. the result? parents moving kids to private school. at the school nearest me they kindergarten enrollment is dropping. they are likely going to only have a a single class in…

My contrarian take is that algebra and calculus are pre requisites for for ap calc which is primarily used for elite college admission decisions.

Re: 'Algebra for none' fails in San Francisco

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It sounds like they tried to set up a large one-size-fits-all program. This might be a good time to bring up Lockhart's Lament , which imagines what artistic education would look like if we treated it like math. https://archive.org/details/AMathematiciansLament Nobody with decision-making power in a school district likes the answer which this paper proposes: very small class sizes.

That answer has also been tried and doesn't work.

Let me ask this: what problem are you trying to solve?

Re: 'Algebra for none' fails in San Francisco

#20

math is just the beginning of these backwards policies. public schools in california have been removing advanced classes in the name of “equity” for years. the racial enrollment in those classes did not reflect the racial enrollment of the school. the result? parents moving kids to private school. at the school nearest me they kindergarten enrollment is dropping. they are likely going to only have a a single class in…

My contrarian take is that algebra and calculus are pre requisites for for ap calc which is primarily used for elite college admission decisions.

Is the word Elite needed?
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