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Re: Dishwasher Salmon

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Post by astura »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #100
jaggederest wrote: post #66

My father was a construction worker, running his own crew and company, and often worked with hot mix asphalt. He is also a recreational fisherman. He would catch a salmon, filet it, wrap it tightly with butter, aromatics and lemons in several layers of tin foil, and bury it in the middle of the truck full of hot mix asphalt. When they reached the fish, it was time for lunch.

This is awesome. Less dramatically, when I lived in Germany, where I had radiators for heat, I stored baby bottles of water on top of the kitchen radiator. It kept the water the perfect temperature for my infant with zero risk of it being too hot, so zero risk of scalding. All I had to do was add powdered formula when he got hungry.

I have decorative boxes covering up my radiators. Incidentally, the boxes heat up to the perfect temperature for my cats, who love sitting on them in the winter.

Re: Dishwasher Salmon

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Post by vxNsr »

floodle wrote: post #181
DoreenMichele wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not what the CDC says. It says you may want to take precautions in some cases, such as with a premature infant. https://www.cdc.gov/nutrition/InfantandToddlerNutrition/form... Edit: This also seems like a recent development. My children are grown. https://foodpoisoningbulletin.com/2022/timeline-chronobacter...

There is some debate about whether or not to prepare formula with 70C/160F water. The NHS in the UK for example, says to do so (under "Reducing the risk of infection"): https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/baby/breastfeeding-and-bottle-... However some, in particular Emily Oster, argue that the risk is negligible and that having an overly complicated set of steps for tired parents to follow is counter-productive: https://ar…

Your second link makes a very strong argument against boiling water due to the minimal risk posed by unboiled water. Comparing it to putting your child in a car.

The recommendation appears to be just another attempt by the government to coddle and infantilize (no pun intended) their constituents.

Re: Dishwasher Salmon

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Post by vxNsr »

b112 wrote: post #149
roryisok wrote: post #143

We used to bake potatoes in piles of grass from when my dad mowed the lawn. wrap your potato in tinfoil twice and bury it at the bottom of a large grass pile in the morning and come back at the end of the day. the grass gets so hot as it starts to breakdown. this is I think due to fermentation inside the grass mound and the insulation of the outer layers. It might have been a day or so after the grass had been cut ra…

Green hay stored in a barn after harvest, heats up, and releases gasses. More than one barn has exploded over the years... (Most let it dry before storing it in the barn...)

Only read the headlines but was this the cause of the recent cow-farm explosion?

Re: Dishwasher Salmon

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Post by neon_electro »

mey wrote: post #92
seraphsf wrote: post #89

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There’s an awesome cookbook on this topic, Manifold Destiny: https://books.google.com/books/about/Manifold_Destiny.html?i... I played around with the idea with my first Jeep Wrangler, a burly car with a perfectly exposed engine block. Never cooked anything, but I was endlessly entertained by the idea that I might. I suppose the transition to EVs will steal this particular daydream from my kids…

Upside is many EVs have 120v AC outlets so a portable induction plate is an easy add. It's actually an option for the Rivian truck in the pull out kitchen.

Unfortunately, "Rivian has deleted the Camp Kitchen, Tunnel Shuttle, and R1T Tent from its online gear shop. All three were previously listed as “not available yet” until earlier today when their entries disappeared."

https://electrek.co/2023/03/29/rivian-deletes-camp-kitchen-a...

Re: Dishwasher Salmon

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Post by kijin »

vxNsr wrote: post #229
kijin wrote: post #168

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Raw salmon is one story. Salmon stored in a lukewarm dishwasher for 2-3 hours, neither cold enough to prevent the growth of bacteria nor hot enough to kill them, is a different story. Imagine a piece of sushi left on the shelf all afternoon in the summer in Phoenix, AZ!

Summer in phoenix gets to 120°F. In a car could get to 160°…

Yup, alomost but not quite the proper temperature for cooking salmon, which is around 130°F.

Re: Dishwasher Salmon

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Post by ocay »

roryisok wrote: post #138
idk1 wrote: post #127

I feel like this page should have a warning, the fantastic Youtuber Ann Reardon investigated lots of cooking "hacks" to see if they were food safe, and she worked out that cooking salmon in a dishwasher does not bring it up to a food safe temperature. [1] Side note - in a different video she also did debunking on other food hacks and ended up investigating Russian bot networks who uploads both food hacks for hits and…

Ann Reardon is great, she debunks so much stuff. I didn't even realise how many fake cooking videos there were out there until I started watching her channel

yeah, she's totally underrated

Re: Dishwasher Salmon

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Post by DoreenMichele »

astura wrote: post #231
DoreenMichele wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is awesome. Less dramatically, when I lived in Germany, where I had radiators for heat, I stored baby bottles of water on top of the kitchen radiator. It kept the water the perfect temperature for my infant with zero risk of it being too hot, so zero risk of scalding. All I had to do was add powdered formula when he got hungry.

I have decorative boxes covering up my radiators. Incidentally, the boxes heat up to the perfect temperature for my cats, who love sitting on them in the winter.

I thought it was super cool at the time because I had never before had radiant heat. German apartments were different in myriad ways from my experience of American housing.

I think America could learn a lot from other cultures about improving quality of life just in terms of housing practices.

Re: Dishwasher Salmon

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Post by DoreenMichele »

lostlogin wrote: post #108
DoreenMichele wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is awesome. Less dramatically, when I lived in Germany, where I had radiators for heat, I stored baby bottles of water on top of the kitchen radiator. It kept the water the perfect temperature for my infant with zero risk of it being too hot, so zero risk of scalding. All I had to do was add powdered formula when he got hungry.

We took an approach that served us well but got unlimited judgement from others - cold bottles. Took almost no time to train and a tap is usually available.

"Hell is other people."

Re: Dishwasher Salmon

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Post by dzhiurgis »

KronisLV wrote: post #182
dzhiurgis wrote: post #77

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How much of cooking is just a chase for tastier food? Up in Eastern Europe everyone is hardcore convinced overcooked meat is healthy because no bacteria plus warm food good for stomach. Tons of people still wince at medium rare steak.

> Up in Eastern Europe everyone is hardcore convinced overcooked meat is healthy because no bacteria plus warm food good for stomach. Tons of people still wince at medium rare steak. I probably fit into this group, because in my mind it's better to be safe than sorry. While most of the food you'd get in stores is going to have good quality control and should be safe, "most" is still not "all". I recall a story from a…

Seeing how poorly my folks handle hygiene in kitchen, they are more likely to get infection by washing your chicken or straight up leaving uncovered leftovers for days...

If I offered you irradiated steak or tartare, would you eat it?

Re: Dishwasher Salmon

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Post by [deleted] »

raybb wrote: post #224
idk1 wrote: post #127

I feel like this page should have a warning, the fantastic Youtuber Ann Reardon investigated lots of cooking "hacks" to see if they were food safe, and she worked out that cooking salmon in a dishwasher does not bring it up to a food safe temperature. [1] Side note - in a different video she also did debunking on other food hacks and ended up investigating Russian bot networks who uploads both food hacks for hits and…

I added a safety section. YouTube generally isn't considered a reliable source for Wikipedia but I think they make exceptions sometimes. If not, hopefully someone will complain and add info from a more reliable source. PS: I can't wait to check back tomorrow and see how being at the top of HN impacted the page views. Interesting that it had a small bump in views on Tuesday (probably posted/mentioned somehwere popular…

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