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Re: Dishwasher Salmon

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Bitumen contains polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons. I believe the typical exposure via inhaling the fumes was researched with no link to cancer found but I have doubts about that fish.

I think at that stage the fish cared about cancer no more.

Besides, you can't really extrapolate between species. Smoking causes cancer in humans, but it cures salmon.

Re: Dishwasher Salmon

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How much of cooking is just a chase for tastier food? Up in Eastern Europe everyone is hardcore convinced overcooked meat is healthy because no bacteria plus warm food good for stomach. Tons of people still wince at medium rare steak.

Because in eastern Europe it's probably more dangerous to eat rare meat due to more lax regulations. There's a reason restaurants add an asterisk after meat dishes. There's risk involved in consuming rare foods. The risk is just very small in the US and Europe. Not so small in other countries.

Actually the regulations here are extremely strict, so much that the restaurants are complaining all the time (stricter than in many Western countries if what they say is true). And having eaten raw meat (tartar steak) many times didn't cause any health problems.

Re: Dishwasher Salmon

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Combi-ovens are predominantly equipment that belongs in commercial kitchens, but nowadays, there are a few options (still not very many though) that can actually fit on a home kitchen countertop. The two notable ones are the Cuisinart steam oven (~$250-300) and the Anova Precision Oven (~$700); these are the low and high ends of the price range.

Did you miss a zero? Because all home combi-ovens I've seen in Germany are nearly 10x that price range. Granted, those aren't countertop but regular home oven form factor devices. They're explicitly for domestic kitchens though.

These are not full-sized ovens. They are made to fit on your countertop.

Re: Dishwasher Salmon

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Pop-up. Raw fish.

That is absolutely insane.

I can get a new pop up toaster for $10. If you used it for a single meal for four people and threw it away, it would add $2.50pp to the cost of the fish, which these days would be around $15pp (in my local currency).

So a 17% increase in the cost of the fish.

Totally wasteful, but food for thought.

Re: Dishwasher Salmon

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post #111
post #79

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Because in eastern Europe it's probably more dangerous to eat rare meat due to more lax regulations. There's a reason restaurants add an asterisk after meat dishes. There's risk involved in consuming rare foods. The risk is just very small in the US and Europe. Not so small in other countries.

I don’t think this is true at all. I’ve been to dozens of countries all over the world and in each one you will find dirty kitchens as well as clean ones. You should visit Eastern Europe some time. It’s not just a stereotype.

Born and living my whole life in Romania, I can tell you that this fear is pretty true. Many people, especially from the older generations, don't trust medium or under steaks.

I should say those that it's not so much a question of the cleanliness of the kitchen, but of the confidence in quality control of the meat. Parasites and tainted meat are a lot more common than in more wealthy countries.

Re: Dishwasher Salmon

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I feel like this page should have a warning, the fantastic Youtuber Ann Reardon investigated lots of cooking "hacks" to see if they were food safe, and she worked out that cooking salmon in a dishwasher does not bring it up to a food safe temperature. [1]

Side note - in a different video she also did debunking on other food hacks and ended up investigating Russian bot networks who uploads both food hacks for hits and then slips in propaganda.

It's one of the best and strangest and best Youtube channels, it has the appearance of a fun cooking channel, and often, 90% of the time, is exactly that, but then occasionally slips into some fascinating areas like, for example, global coco production lines and exploitation.

Off the top of my head over the years she has also uncovered some very strange child exploitation videos where the audio is different to the content. She has also almost definitely saved a huge amount of lives with her fractal wood burning debunking videos [2].

It's a little off topic but I thought you all here would find it interesting that a Youtube channel called How To Cook That with cookies and cakes as it's logo has done all of the above [3].

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSwzau2_KF8

[2] https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/09/23/1059920/youtube-...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Cook_That

Re: Dishwasher Salmon

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Unless you're buying locally caught Salmon at a fish market, it was almost certainly flash frozen. Even if it's not frozen anymore when presented in the store.

Sushi grade fish is flash frozen at -40°f - not all fish is frozen this way. Most [0] sushi grade fish in the US is frozen this way before distribution. This is not the case for ALL fish. It would almost certainly have been frozen, just not necessarily flash frozen with the intent to distribute as sushi grade. Most fish you buy will have a warning specifically saying not to eat it raw if it wasn’t frozen safely in th…

Unrelated fun fact, -40 F = -40 C

Re: Dishwasher Salmon

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Bitumen contains polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons. I believe the typical exposure via inhaling the fumes was researched with no link to cancer found but I have doubts about that fish.

The roofing of my primary school was under almost constant repair, so the smell of bitumen heaters was a common companion. Hardly experience it these days, but I loved that aroma - still do.

Breath deep, son! That sweet smell of bitumen heaters you loved as a kid? That's the scent of progress! Sure, you don't get to whiff it much these days, but let me tell you, back in my day, we'd huff that stuff like it was the lifeblood of invention. You see, in the world of scientific discovery, a little bit of bitumen goes a long way.

Now, I know what you're thinking: "Cave, isn't that dangerous?" Well, listen up, sport: science isn't all rainbows and unicorn farts. Sometimes, it's polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons! Those big, fancy words might scare the lab coats, but not us. We're the brave souls, the pioneers who push the boundaries and get our hands dirty.

That's the spirit we need to keep alive! Remember, fear has no place in the laboratory. If we're going to make the next big breakthrough, we've got to be willing to take a few risks. So what if we end up with a little cancer? A little cancer never hurt anyone! It's just another challenge for us to overcome in the name of progress.

Let the fumes fuel your passion for innovation.

Re: Dishwasher Salmon

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post #127

I feel like this page should have a warning, the fantastic Youtuber Ann Reardon investigated lots of cooking "hacks" to see if they were food safe, and she worked out that cooking salmon in a dishwasher does not bring it up to a food safe temperature. [1] Side note - in a different video she also did debunking on other food hacks and ended up investigating Russian bot networks who uploads both food hacks for hits and…

What we consider food safe depends on local regulations / individual standards. Some people eat raw salmon.
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