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Germany Quits Nuclear Power, Ending a Decades-Long Struggle

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Re: Germany Quits Nuclear Power, Ending a Decades-Long Struggle

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are probably being downvoted because they are pinning the decisions lead by CDU on the Green party. If they didn't misrepresent the situation they most likely would not get downvoted. Funny how that works, no?

The CDU may have made the decision but the Greens were in favor of it, were they not?

because someone else supported the idea they are now responsible? weird take on how government should be held accountable.

Re: Germany Quits Nuclear Power, Ending a Decades-Long Struggle

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What are they gonna use for power?

In 2022 ( https://www.destatis.de/DE/Presse/Pressemitteilungen/2023/03... ): - 33% coal - 11% natural gas - 24% wind - 11% solar - 6% nuclear Nuclear was already winding down with only 6% in 2022. Medium term renewables are growing and will replace it, short term coal and gas.

As a result of this Germany emits about 6 times as much CO2 per kWh as France.

Re: Germany Quits Nuclear Power, Ending a Decades-Long Struggle

#54

What are they gonna use for power?

In 2022 ( https://www.destatis.de/DE/Presse/Pressemitteilungen/2023/03... ): - 33% coal - 11% natural gas - 24% wind - 11% solar - 6% nuclear Nuclear was already winding down with only 6% in 2022. Medium term renewables are growing and will replace it, short term coal and gas.

Wait 'till we notice that one needs giant storage capacity for an actual renewables switch too ;)

The economic potential wasted in this country over the past ~30 years by shortsighted political self-sabotage is almost hilarious.

And after 50 years of sub-replacement fertility, now we'll get wrecked even harder by what's going to happen with this graphic https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Germany#/med...

Of course, it all comes so suddenly...

Re: Germany Quits Nuclear Power, Ending a Decades-Long Struggle

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post #41
post #28

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>Actually not every way though.. nuclear waste has to go somewhere. I don't understand your argument; of course waste must go somewhere. Nuclear power, with its waste, is still cleaner than fossil fuels in every way.

> nuclear waste has to go somewhere. My stock comment for that is: bury it deep and with signs; if we've lost the ability to read the signs, we've lost the ability to dig deep and endanger ourselves.

Indeed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_nuclear_waste_warnin...

Re: Germany Quits Nuclear Power, Ending a Decades-Long Struggle

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This will result in 15 MT more CO2 emissions per year https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/15-millionen-tonnen-mehr-co2-...

I wonder if Greta will show up to protest this..

Like this? https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/17/us/greta-thunberg-detaine...

Re: Germany Quits Nuclear Power, Ending a Decades-Long Struggle

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Unfortunately popular sentiment doesn't equate to scientific fact. Nuclear power is cleaner, safer and less environmentally damaging than fossil fuels in every way. Still, since when have politicians ever let facts get in the way of campaigning for power?

"Nuclear power is cleaner [..] than fossil fuels in every way." Actually not every way though.. nuclear waste has to go somewhere.

What you do is finally close the cycle with a fast breeder... This was so clear, then Astrid got shot for no good reason.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASTRID_(reactor)

Re: Germany Quits Nuclear Power, Ending a Decades-Long Struggle

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Germany is now currently advocating to sanction and ban Russian nuclear imports and maintenance on most European reactors, but is happily importing russian gas in the meantime…

>is happily importing russian gas in the meantime…

No, its not.

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