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Germany Quits Nuclear Power, Ending a Decades-Long Struggle

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Re: Germany Quits Nuclear Power, Ending a Decades-Long Struggle

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Germany be like - let's do exactly opposite of what makes sense in today's world Green party is really ruining and I'm amazed people still give them votes

Surprised you are getting downvoted, you are correct. This is an incredibly stupid thing to do.

Re: Germany Quits Nuclear Power, Ending a Decades-Long Struggle

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Don't forget that this is complety against current public sentiment in germany: https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/germany-sees-ti...

Exiting nuclear was once according to then-current public sentiment. Problem is, all governments in the last 30 years have been populist power-hungry careerists without any regard for longer-term science-based policy. They just did what seemed the easiest way to get over the next election.

Re: Germany Quits Nuclear Power, Ending a Decades-Long Struggle

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Germany be like - let's do exactly opposite of what makes sense in today's world Green party is really ruining and I'm amazed people still give them votes

This was not decided by the greens only. From the article: > Yet the Fukushima nuclear disaster in Japan in 2011 caused German sentiments to shift strongly against atomic energy once more, and Ms. Merkel abruptly reversed course. Her government passed a law to phase out Germany’s 17 nuclear reactors by the end of 2022. Similarly in the neighbouring Austria, nuclear power is prohibited in the constitution, not by a po…

You can still visit the nuclear power plants that were built but never switched on

https://youtu.be/WUVZbBBHrI4

Re: Germany Quits Nuclear Power, Ending a Decades-Long Struggle

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Germany be like - let's do exactly opposite of what makes sense in today's world Green party is really ruining and I'm amazed people still give them votes

This was not decided by the greens only. From the article: > Yet the Fukushima nuclear disaster in Japan in 2011 caused German sentiments to shift strongly against atomic energy once more, and Ms. Merkel abruptly reversed course. Her government passed a law to phase out Germany’s 17 nuclear reactors by the end of 2022. Similarly in the neighbouring Austria, nuclear power is prohibited in the constitution, not by a po…

> in the neighbouring Austria, nuclear power is prohibited

Which is funny, because we actually built a pretty much complete nuclear power plant, Zwentendorf. It‘s now a unique museum.

A vote of just 50.47 % ruined our radiant future...

Also we do have one research reactor left right in the city. I was blessed enough to visit it once.

Re: Germany Quits Nuclear Power, Ending a Decades-Long Struggle

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Unfortunately popular sentiment doesn't equate to scientific fact. Nuclear power is cleaner, safer and less environmentally damaging than fossil fuels in every way. Still, since when have politicians ever let facts get in the way of campaigning for power?

"Nuclear power is cleaner [..] than fossil fuels in every way." Actually not every way though.. nuclear waste has to go somewhere.

Nuclear waste doesn’t cause climate change and it doesn’t go anywhere - this is not an urgent problem.

Re: Germany Quits Nuclear Power, Ending a Decades-Long Struggle

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately popular sentiment doesn't equate to scientific fact. Nuclear power is cleaner, safer and less environmentally damaging than fossil fuels in every way. Still, since when have politicians ever let facts get in the way of campaigning for power?

"Nuclear power is cleaner [..] than fossil fuels in every way." Actually not every way though.. nuclear waste has to go somewhere.

>Actually not every way though.. nuclear waste has to go somewhere.

I don't understand your argument; of course waste must go somewhere. Nuclear power, with its waste, is still cleaner than fossil fuels in every way.

Re: Germany Quits Nuclear Power, Ending a Decades-Long Struggle

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately popular sentiment doesn't equate to scientific fact. Nuclear power is cleaner, safer and less environmentally damaging than fossil fuels in every way. Still, since when have politicians ever let facts get in the way of campaigning for power?

We are not choosing between nuclear and fossils - we have chosen renewables. Clarification: I'm not German. I'm talking globally and long term. What's happening right now in Germany is just a blip. The big picture: > Clean power growth is likely to exceed electricity demand growth in 2023; this would be the first year for this to happen outside of a recession. With average growth in electricity demand and clean power…

You thought you chose renewables. You actually chose coal, LNG, and buying power from France.
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