GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

Post by sco1 » Sat, Apr 15, 2023, 3:12 AM UTC

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Sure, if you live somewhere with constant cellular connection or you're not sharing a vehicle with someone else. What really irks me is when a connected device is required to do something trivial. My dad's 2021 GMC truck recently got an OTA update that removed the built in map. I discovered this when I was driving in the country and came upon construction with closed roads. I tried to pull up the map and look for a r…

Pretty crazy that 5 years ago, many cars went with an offline first approach to maps. You had to manually update the map database every year. I don’t even see that business model ever returning. Companies have figured out there’s way more money in running a map service. Ftr, teslas stream map tiles and if your car loses connectivity, you’re not going to see anything

Post by ajdude » Sat, Apr 15, 2023, 3:18 AM UTC

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CarPlay and AndroidAuto don’t give the car any access to the phone data and that’s the “problem” GM seems trying to “fix”. CarPlay and AndroidAuto protocols basically treat car’s display as a remote framebuffer.

There's been some controversy about data collection going the other way the Android side. https://www.motortrend.com/features/13-cool-facts-about-the-... > As part of the agreement an automaker would have to enter with Google, Porsche said certain pieces of data must be collected and transmitted back to Mountain View, California. Stuff like vehicle speed, throttle position, coolant and oil temp, engine revs—basically…

Post by the_mar » Sat, Apr 15, 2023, 3:19 AM UTC

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I’m guessing that Google is willing to do a revenue share with GM from the data. And apple doesn’t do that. So some dork at GM figured they can increase revenue with their own special system. GM has a history of stupid decisions trying to get service revenue from cars. I remember on Star and it was so dumb that they wanted me to lay $40/month for concierge service or something.

They still have onStar and push it despite all reason. I drove a 2023 chevy bolt recently, and couldn’t figure out how to get the nav software to render a map. All the buttons in the UI just initiated phone calls with someone (something?), so I hung up and switched to carplay. It is a shame that the onboard nav is busted. My old BMW EV has extremely good range predictions, etc., and my phone does not even attempt suc…

Post by Axien » Sat, Apr 15, 2023, 3:23 AM UTC

Post by amluto » Sat, Apr 15, 2023, 3:35 AM UTC

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Personally, I wont ever connect my phone to my car at all (if my next car doesn't have an aux port I'll install one myself), but I have to assume that GM is doing this because their own software siphons more data off of our devices than even carplay or andriod auto does. > "GM is looking to monetize more software and services within its vehicles and is taking a page out of Tesla’s playbook," Since they're only doing…

CarPlay and AndroidAuto don’t give the car any access to the phone data and that’s the “problem” GM seems trying to “fix”. CarPlay and AndroidAuto protocols basically treat car’s display as a remote framebuffer.