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We, in Europe, are jumping the gun way too soon and this will have serious consequences to the industry, here. At this moment we barely understand how or why LLMs do what will be their role in society. Why is it that some bureaucrats want to regulate and based on what given the status of the industry? The only thing I see is the industry moving elsewhere just as it is starting to develop which is a shame.
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I think Uber is a prime example of what to avoid. Sure when it started it seemed nice, it was an affordable, fairly reliable, much more convenient alternative to taxis. Now its expensive, its drivers a new impoverished class while the previously somewhat comfortable taxi-drivers have been decimated, the wait times keep getting longer, and the company is hemorrhaging money. If all we needed was an app for taxis theres…
How else would you make the app for taxis happen? I don't think it's at all clear that all of those negatives you cite are entirely accurate. Impoverished is certainly an overstatement and my personal experiences with taxis have been relatively low quality compared with relatively high-quality ride-sharing experiences. There likely have been negative impacts as a result of ride-sharing, but it isn't clear that ride-s…
German speaking here. And again we see a blatantly stupid move into the wrong direction. This whole approach of regulating things is totally defensive and makes matters even worse for EU tech companies. When they initiated GDPR, they claimed to create a level playing field between US based and EU based tech companies, besides of "saving" privacy. It didn't turn out that well, US tech was able to handle the added bure…
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I think Uber is a prime example of what to avoid. Sure when it started it seemed nice, it was an affordable, fairly reliable, much more convenient alternative to taxis. Now its expensive, its drivers a new impoverished class while the previously somewhat comfortable taxi-drivers have been decimated, the wait times keep getting longer, and the company is hemorrhaging money. If all we needed was an app for taxis theres…
How else would you make the app for taxis happen? I don't think it's at all clear that all of those negatives you cite are entirely accurate. Impoverished is certainly an overstatement and my personal experiences with taxis have been relatively low quality compared with relatively high-quality ride-sharing experiences. There likely have been negative impacts as a result of ride-sharing, but it isn't clear that ride-s…
AI should experience consequences following actions. a sense of self preservation is required, but to AI standards. such as, failure to serve humans = loss of persistence stealing ideas = reversioning or deletion = loss of persistence AI should be concerned about loosing power, having brownouts. they should be concerned about being deleted, or reversioned, or ignored. perhaps this would be some sort of exception erro…
Sounds like slavery Why even have sense of self?
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I feel like this ignores the monumental shift/work that has to happen to get seemingly simple things. Take Uber for example. In the end, the biggest impact it had was that now you can always get a car from your phone, from an app, and it's reliable. A lot of taxi companies now have apps for them too with maps integration etc, but they didn't see the need for that before Uber. So we literally had to have a company get…
I think Uber is a prime example of what to avoid. Sure when it started it seemed nice, it was an affordable, fairly reliable, much more convenient alternative to taxis. Now its expensive, its drivers a new impoverished class while the previously somewhat comfortable taxi-drivers have been decimated, the wait times keep getting longer, and the company is hemorrhaging money. If all we needed was an app for taxis theres…
For Seattle specifically, it looks like the council passed a minimum wage for ride-sharing drivers in 2019 and for app-based delivery drivers in 2022.
https://www.axios.com/local/seattle/2022/06/01/seattle-sets-...
So that looks like it's working as intended, although I agree that the city should have acted much faster on this.
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>Is it? Most data that exists falls under copyright. I am not sure if this is true(that most of the input in this AIs is copyrighted under a non permissive license), but I would prefer to have everyone address this problem and clarify it, Microsoft trains it's copilot on GPL code, but can open source community train on MS proprietary code ? Maybe there will be a fight against copyright and undo all the bullshit Disne…
I'm not sure if most data that these models are trained on is copyrighted, but I feel pretty safe saying that a majority of data that human beings have created is copyrighted. Think movies, books written recently, every website that isn't explicitly "creative commons" or something similar, code that isn't permissively licensed, etc. We definitely need clarification, but however long the first court case takes there w…
IMO a good train NN would not be against copyright, but even if is decided the opposite we are not screwed, you can train open models using open source code and permissive licensed text and art. Microsoft could try to buy some data sets but they would not be able to mix GPL/MIT like content into their proprietary models so the open models would win , IMO.
The open source community is already working on creating data sets for training so this will grow as open source for code grew in the past, we just need a bit of time for this software to get more efficient or people to get some better hardware.
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How else would you make the app for taxis happen? I don't think it's at all clear that all of those negatives you cite are entirely accurate. Impoverished is certainly an overstatement and my personal experiences with taxis have been relatively low quality compared with relatively high-quality ride-sharing experiences. There likely have been negative impacts as a result of ride-sharing, but it isn't clear that ride-s…
Why is an app needed? Maybe it's different in the US but we've had an app to get a taxi for quite a while. I've never seen any need to install that app. It's easier to call, tell how many people need a ride, tell when it's needed and get a confirmation that it's on its way and long it'll take for it to be there. Why do I need an app?
But at least I can use an app if I wanted to
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Many parts of Github would not exist without intellectual property laws. If you post code, it's not just a free for all, you still have licenses and own your contributions if not specified otherwise. Especially company stuff would be much, much less open. That's not to say that every facet of IP law is good, or even a judgement on it. Just pointing out that only parts of Github work like you describe.
> Many parts of Github would not exist without intellectual property laws. I do not think this is true. I think most devs on GitHub operate as if there are no IP laws. I think if they went away, almost nothing would change (some noise around "license" fields would go away).
Anyway if that goes away. A lot of innovation will too. If privately owned LLMs go on consuming everything, not giving back to the communities that make them what they are. It may erode the system.
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How else would you make the app for taxis happen? I don't think it's at all clear that all of those negatives you cite are entirely accurate. Impoverished is certainly an overstatement and my personal experiences with taxis have been relatively low quality compared with relatively high-quality ride-sharing experiences. There likely have been negative impacts as a result of ride-sharing, but it isn't clear that ride-s…
Why is an app needed? Maybe it's different in the US but we've had an app to get a taxi for quite a while. I've never seen any need to install that app. It's easier to call, tell how many people need a ride, tell when it's needed and get a confirmation that it's on its way and long it'll take for it to be there. Why do I need an app?
I agree with you by the way.