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EU's AI Act: ChatGPT must disclose use of copyrighted training data

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Re: EU's AI Act: ChatGPT must disclose use of copyrighted training data

#11

Post by rolph »

AI should experience consequences following actions.

a sense of self preservation is required, but to AI standards.

such as, failure to serve humans = loss of persistence

stealing ideas = reversioning or deletion = loss of persistence

AI should be concerned about loosing power, having brownouts. they should be concerned about being deleted, or reversioned, or ignored. perhaps this would be some sort of exception error loop, approximating a human psychological conflict, such as escape the danger by running toward it.

Re: EU's AI Act: ChatGPT must disclose use of copyrighted training data

#12

Post by cfn »

We, in Europe, are jumping the gun way too soon and this will have serious consequences to the industry, here. At this moment we barely understand how or why LLMs do what will be their role in society. Why is it that some bureaucrats want to regulate and based on what given the status of the industry?

The only thing I see is the industry moving elsewhere just as it is starting to develop which is a shame.

Re: EU's AI Act: ChatGPT must disclose use of copyrighted training data

#13

Post by throwaway60134 »

rolph wrote: post #11

AI should experience consequences following actions. a sense of self preservation is required, but to AI standards. such as, failure to serve humans = loss of persistence stealing ideas = reversioning or deletion = loss of persistence AI should be concerned about loosing power, having brownouts. they should be concerned about being deleted, or reversioned, or ignored. perhaps this would be some sort of exception erro…

Sounds like slavery

Why even have sense of self?

Re: EU's AI Act: ChatGPT must disclose use of copyrighted training data

#14

Post by monkaiju »

cfn wrote: post #12

We, in Europe, are jumping the gun way too soon and this will have serious consequences to the industry, here. At this moment we barely understand how or why LLMs do what will be their role in society. Why is it that some bureaucrats want to regulate and based on what given the status of the industry? The only thing I see is the industry moving elsewhere just as it is starting to develop which is a shame.

Looking at the recent history of a lot of 'disruptive' new tech it sorta seems like waiting to 'see what impact itll have' means being too late to reign it in. I can hardly think of any recent tech that doesnt have horribly negative impacts and that i wouldnt rather be heavily regulated tbh

Re: EU's AI Act: ChatGPT must disclose use of copyrighted training data

#15

Post by Herring »

alismayilov wrote: post #8
fakedang wrote: post #6

If you can't innovate, regulate ;)

What about opposite? If you regulate too much, you can’t innovate :)

It is important to recognize the distinction between money and wealth, which is often overlooked in American culture. The consistent high rankings of European countries on the lists of "happiest places to live" can be attributed, in part, to their approach in curbing corporate influence.

Re: EU's AI Act: ChatGPT must disclose use of copyrighted training data

#16

Post by rockemsockem »

monkaiju wrote: post #14
cfn wrote: post #12

We, in Europe, are jumping the gun way too soon and this will have serious consequences to the industry, here. At this moment we barely understand how or why LLMs do what will be their role in society. Why is it that some bureaucrats want to regulate and based on what given the status of the industry? The only thing I see is the industry moving elsewhere just as it is starting to develop which is a shame.

Looking at the recent history of a lot of 'disruptive' new tech it sorta seems like waiting to 'see what impact itll have' means being too late to reign it in. I can hardly think of any recent tech that doesnt have horribly negative impacts and that i wouldnt rather be heavily regulated tbh

I feel like this ignores the monumental shift/work that has to happen to get seemingly simple things.

Take Uber for example. In the end, the biggest impact it had was that now you can always get a car from your phone, from an app, and it's reliable. A lot of taxi companies now have apps for them too with maps integration etc, but they didn't see the need for that before Uber. So we literally had to have a company get created and disrupt the whole industry for that simple outcome. I think we're better off now that we can summon cars from our phones to take us places and onerous regulation up-front would have squelched it or massively slowed it down.

Re: EU's AI Act: ChatGPT must disclose use of copyrighted training data

#17

Post by [deleted] »

cfn wrote: post #12

We, in Europe, are jumping the gun way too soon and this will have serious consequences to the industry, here. At this moment we barely understand how or why LLMs do what will be their role in society. Why is it that some bureaucrats want to regulate and based on what given the status of the industry? The only thing I see is the industry moving elsewhere just as it is starting to develop which is a shame.

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Re: EU's AI Act: ChatGPT must disclose use of copyrighted training data

#18

Post by google234123 »

Herring wrote: post #15
alismayilov wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about opposite? If you regulate too much, you can’t innovate :)

It is important to recognize the distinction between money and wealth, which is often overlooked in American culture. The consistent high rankings of European countries on the lists of "happiest places to live" can be attributed, in part, to their approach in curbing corporate influence.

Europe is now about making sure only those with old wealth can be rich, can't have new money coming up.

Re: EU's AI Act: ChatGPT must disclose use of copyrighted training data

#20

Post by breck »

mztwo wrote: post #9
jMyles wrote: post #7

It's so absolutely obvious that the concept of intellectual property is not going to survive. What's the point of this agonizing life support?

What does a post intellectual property world even look like, though? I'm not aware of any convincing frameworks that our existing society could merge into.

> What does a post intellectual property world even look like, though?

It looks like Github! People sharing and collaborating to build new things. No lawyers getting in the way. Attribution is automatically handled by git logs.

It's glorious.

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